I don't know if this is the right community or c/anime but whatever
I love Hololive and Hoshimachi Suisei is my absolute favorite. She has her first solo concert tomorrow but Hololive charges bizarre prices for these, 5000 yen (37,63€ or $43,80) for a stream of a digital concert is insane.
So I was wondering if anyone here knows where I could either find a recording of this afterwards or, alternatively, if there are other fans here maybe who'd be interested in buying one ticket together and then one person could stream it to the others and record it perhaps? After buying a ticket you can watch the archived stream until the 21st of November so it should be feasible.
Asking here because as a Hololive fan, most other Hololive fans would rather snap their own necks than pirate something like this. I just wanna watch my favorite anime girl sing ;-;
More info about the whole thing here: https://virtual.spwn.jp/events/21102102-engsuisei
Edit: Someone linked this and that is where we will hopefully get our comet content, fellow hoshiyomi https://nyaa.si/?f=0&c=0_0&q=星街すいせい
I'm not serious about that btw enjoy whatever slop you want I'm not much better
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think people harp on Hololive a bit too much, sure it's still a capitalist company, profiting off the talents's surplus labour, but comparatively they are much much better.
The talents only have to stream at least 3 days/week in the first year, after that they can stream as much as they want (some barely stream more than 1 time a week) and they can take as much break as they want for any reason if they feel unwell, some family businesses or whatever,...
The company also provide them with the capital, giving them an audience and connections right off the start that other streamers that could stream for many years and still not achieve. Also all the things the company do also come back to profit the talents in some way or another, like the bigger the company is, the bigger the connections and audience the talents get.
Sure they probably put some restrictions on what the talents can and cannot do but seeing how all the talents feel genuinely happy to be there (easily noticed if you watch the EN girls a lot and especially the 1st anniversary stream) , it's probably not that bad.
Idol culture notwithstanding, it's actually cool & good that they found a new way to engage in the online sphere with a small firewall between them and the Very Online types.
Fair enough, I was mostly getting at vtubing being something that should be embraced over the traditional streamer model of dumping your entire identity on the net and having it be raked over constantly.
try https://nyaa.si/?f=0&c=0_0&q=%E6%98%9F%E8%A1%97%E3%81%99%E3%81%84%E3%81%9B%E3%81%84 after the stream it already has a bunch of torrents from her past stuff
you are the leech as in you are downloading the file from a seeder (the person sharing)
Yeah it's not super important either, you want to be looking at the count of seeders (number of clients you'll be able to download the file from). Lots of seeders make for a fast and reliable download.
Lots of leechers mean that others will be trying to get pieces of the file from you, which isn't a big deal, and can be disabled if you don't want to share. Not the best etiquette, but it's more likely that you'll get into some sort of trouble than only downloading. On a related note: if you ever join a private tracker, you're usually required to upload at least 1x as much as you download, your client should show you the "ratio" of data transferred for each file.
This has been "torrenting 102"
Kind of amazed that no one here gave the right answer. A leecher is someone who downloads more than they upload, thereby being a net negative on the whole thing. If enough people leech then the download ends up really, really slow or possibly completely broken.
How can there be 12 seeders and 2 leechers on a torrent in that case? In order to seed a file you need to download it. Obviously, you can't upload that which you have not first downloaded.
dunno if you already saw it but someone uploaded it under an english title https://nyaa.si/view/1446766
So, we are fully engaging with reality via multiple distorted representations of reality at this point, right? Are we already in the matrix? What is even real? How many layers of simulacrum? An imitation of an imitation? How many layers deep are we and can we even tell??
I think $50 is too much probably.
it starts with clicking on a clip of some weird anime dog girl and boom suddenly you've formed parasocial relationships with like 30 streamers who speak a language you don't even understand
my brain straight up melted after I asked myself why I found this instinctively wrong when I easily pirate hundreds of dollars worth of anime and manga a year without even questioning it. Hope you can find some way to enjoy our diamond in the rough.
I mean I'd rather watch it the legit way, I would even pay money for it. But not 5000 yen.
From what I read, the talents get a rather large share from their merch sales, so maybe I'll buy that instead.
No iget what you mean, it's the whole "rather twist your own neck" line. I've pirated enough manga to fill a bookshelf and enough anime to run an anime club for 4 years at least, and have never once even thought about paying money for it or felt bad. But I read this and my brain just went "Suisei earned the money. No one can steal it." and I just had no idea how deep set the Vtubers have become in my head.
i doubt she's behind the price tag on this, fwiw
i remember the last big event which involved a lot more talents was also this expensive, the way cover corp monetizes everything is insane. Can't imagine Suisei herself sees too big of a share from the ticket sales
But yeah we gotta be careful with making excuses for things just because we like them, hololive having shitty business practices is not defensible just because the blue-haired girl sings nice
Being a musician is a tough business and I don't imagine it being different even when you perform using an avatar
Who's the bigger nerd: people paying money for virtual tickets to Hololive concerts or the people who paid for virtual tickets to the podcast festival Chapo was at?
:thinky-felix:
Long response but here it is
Again as a Hololive fan, many Hololive fans are nerdy people with a void in their life that is filled with cute, wholesome anime streamers. People who work in STEM jobs that make good money but don't have a real life to spend it on. If you watch Hololive streams you will see $100 donations quite frequently, sometimes not even with any text attached.
People grow attached to things that make them feel positive emotions and Hololive streams are a very positive place, very different from most other online spaces. People (or, more aptly, characters) like Inugami Korone or Shirakami Fubuki are always happy and cheerful, they're always fun and their streams are free of the cynicism and negativity you will see in pretty much any other stream, including the chat. Everyone knows that it's fake, that they're just playing a character, but that doesn't matter, really. It's kinda like wrestling in that sense.
That's why I grew so attached to it. Where else can you find titles like "Korone and Okayu Have Endless Fun Playing X" and have it be genuine? Just a doggirl and a catgirl having fun and laughing while messing around in a video game, completely detached from the irony-poisoned, cynical rest of the internet.
This is why people are so invested in them, and why many have no issue paying this and more. They're a source of genuine, wholesome joy and those can be scarce in a world where your soul is constantly being sucked out of your body via exploitation and austerity.
I don't spend money on it myself but I understand people who do. Sucks that Hololive itself is run by greedy ghouls but oh well.
Korone is honestly built different. Like, her character is so overly cheerful at all times and her streams frequently last >6 hours, I have no idea how she does it without going insane. Unless that is just how she is in real life she is an amazing performer.
Seeing a constant flow of people dropping hundos on a stream
:what-the-hell:
Hololive fans are nerdy people with a void in their life that is filled with cute, wholesome anime streamers.
Nothing says wholesome like exploiting parasocial relationships for a 40$ digital concert streamed online :wholesome: `
I would not pay for it either, but there are many types of performances I would not pay to watch so that is hardly special
5000 yen (37,63€ or $43,80) for a stream of a digital concert is insane.
Yea suck my cock, japan. Just wait for this to come out on torrent and use aiosearch.com
Oh yeah thanks for reminding me it's tomorrow. Gonna be a good day tomorrow :tofu-cool:
why would you pay when she's not even going to play tetris though??
Just finished watching it live. Totally worth staying up to watch.
did you want to watch it? I could loan you my account for it for a hot minute
