• zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      China’s 996 extreme work culture turns a lot of people off. Chinese culture is a frantic race to work, work, work so you can become an ATM for your family members who never offer a word of thanks.

      Seems like the courts ruled 996 illegal as of last August. That, plus the way Jack Ma got thwacked, might suggest reform on the horizon. That said, point taken. That work schedule sounds insane.

      Meanwhile Americans aren’t exactly lining up to immigrate to China.

      Eh. America's a big place, and lots of people consider internal migration easier and more lucrative than external migration. So you move from Texas to California (or California to Texas). As I understand it, internal migration in China is a lot harder.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          3 years ago

          I mean, if its the standard at Alibaba...

          That's like saying "Amazon Warehouses aren't the norm". Just the industry leader's way of doing business?

    • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Chinese culture is a frantic race to work, work, work so you can become an ATM for your family members who never offer a word of thanks.

      lol, OK :lmayo:

      Once again, several Hexbear users have seen fit to upbear garbage like this.

        • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Within 10 minutes of posting, two other people upbeared it. We have :LIB:s :amogus: .

        • Hortener [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          Where'd that come from? The gratitude is never offered to family members who work and provide money. That's what was said. Why would you need to thank them? That's family's job.

          • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            Where’d that come from? The gratitude is never offered to family members who work and provide money. That’s what was said. Why would you need to thank them? That’s family’s job.

            Chinese culture is a frantic race to work, work, work so you can become an ATM for your family members who never offer a word of thanks.

            You must see how that comes off pretty badly.

            • Hortener [none/use name]
              hexagon
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              3 years ago

              Working adults providing for the rest of the family is simply expected. It's not something out of the ordinary that people feel the need to offer thanks for.

              • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                so you can become an ATM

                never offer a word of thanks.

                That seems pretty clearly intended to be read negatively.

    • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Lmfao chauvinist scum

      Meanwhile Americans aren’t exactly lining up to immigrate to China.

      Damn the literal worst people to ever live are so blinded by their racist ignorance that they aren't lining up to move to what is objectively a high quality of life? Say it ain't so!

      • spectre [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        what is objectively a high quality of life?

        I think this is an odd statement to make tbh. I don't think there would be much upside for nearly any American to move to the PRC unless they are very very poor, and even then it's probably a wash.

        • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Chinese people make less money, yes, but their cost of living is a drastically lower portion of their earnings. The age of retirement is 54.

          Also, turns out there are a shitload of poor Americans.

          • spectre [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            True true, I guess it doesn't surprise me that people wouldn't want to emigrate from the US to the PRC so much as people from other places in the global south heading over there. I've heard that there's a growing African immigrant community in some Chinese cities so maybe that's the sign of a shift. Would make some sense for south/central American immigrants to head that way too probably, but it's still an ocean away, and I'm not sure if the PRC has much of an incentive to encourage immigration idk

              • Hortener [none/use name]
                hexagon
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                3 years ago

                China views itself as bursting at the seams with people. The last thing it needs is more people. Immigration is a non-starter. If you're ethnic Chinese you can enroll in the "returnee" program and they'll welcome you back home, but that's about it. You can get a "green card" if you have a Ph.D or similar or you have some badly needed talent. But a lot of people who qualify for it never get it because it affects your tax liability.

            • Hortener [none/use name]
              hexagon
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              3 years ago

              The African area of Guangzhou was broken up a while back. Last I heard they were trying to reform it in Yiwu.

    • spectre [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Grass is always greener and all that....

      The culture sounds pretty strict, and younger folks are going to grow up in better conditions and more influence from the Western world. A lot of what I've heard indicates that things will come around culturally in the next couple decades but we'll see.