Idk how I'd protect my kids from the internet.
There's obviously good stuff but enough bad that you can't just fix with domain blocks. And that weird ass YouTube kids stuff.
Thing is, kids always want to act out the things they see their parents doing. So to achieve that without facing tantrums, you'd have to ditch tablets and phones yourself.
Or give your kid a broken tablet or one disconnected from the internet
The only way is to not give your kid a smartphone until they're over 10 years old at least. Give them a Nokia running symbian or something
Don't let them use the internet for non-school things until they're at least middle school aged. Try to find a school that's light on tech for your kids if you can - that's how all the Silicon Valley ghouls raise their kids.
Allow access to the regular internet but not twitter, youtube, instagram, tiktok etc.
I wish I had had internet access as a child to learn about my interests, however these social media networks are absolute cancer.
Yeah let your kid get what they need to talk to other people but don't let them bs on there enough to create a persona
If I had a kid, spectacle would be a big teaching priority. Something akin to "We can consume images faster than words. Images are very powerful and can make us feel certain ways or believe certain things without thinking about what we're being told by those images. Powerful and popular people use images like a carrot and stick to take advantage of us. They tell you that boys do certain things that girls don't, that money buys happiness, that some people are better than others, that you're part of a group that you don't actually belong to as an equal member. Because the world is a sad place and people don't have the things they need to be the best version of themselves, they crave images that replace the things they're missing and worship people who give them that fulfilling image. That can be an authority figure, an institution or business, or a celebrity. Celebrities use the image of friendship, but a one-sided friendship where they don't know you exist, to sell you the images that benefit them personally. Because your life is very different from theirs, what benefits them hurts you and makes you need that imagery more."
Just a basic sense of alienation, parasocial relationships, propaganda, and simulacra. If a kid can tell that images have stories behind them and ask what those stories are and where they're coming from, they're at least distrustful of the shit they're sold.
I mean Hasan is my friend and he loves me and we watch youtube together and I wish he were my dad because he works too much but Hasan just likes hanging out with me.
I hate the prevalence of parasocial relationships, but damn, I can't help but love Hasan.
I don't like what he represents structurally and eventually his class interests will probably turn but I like agents of chaos and he's the only streamer I bother watching. He's hosting at least some of the things I'd want Twitch kids to watch and is actively hostile to toxicity in the kind of bullying way that I like about this community. If Twitch must exist and it must be a radicalising force, may as well be someone saying/doing most of what I'd say/do in his shoes.
Yeah I'd turn on him in a heartbeat if he stopped drawing attention to the structural contradictions that allowed him to be profoundly successful. I do think he does a good job trying to break the communism is when no money attitude of a lot of internet leftists. That, and he rapidly attacks transphobes, which is great.
His breaks that stereotype while constantly framing it within the labour theory of value. I'm not sure what actual monetary value should be assigned to entertainment, especially as someone who thinks modern art is invaluable, but whenever I hear him talk about it he's saying that it's all value he is generating. No employees and hates the idea of having them, no capital beyond the channel and hates the idea of investing, gives his IP away for free so that the message is extended by every small channel cutting up clips. Mods and twitch backend employees should both get a cut at his expense but otherwise it's a one-fella operation.
I take more of an issue with Chapo for paying their editor a wage.Chris and Will have both said that Chris gets a share just like anyone else
Posters of a certain age will remember when those sites were filled with tremendously racist games about fighting Bin Laden
Hell yeah, Heli Attack was my shit when I was meant to be working in school
Just pay attention to what they're watching and limit the amount of time they're allowed on the computer. Its generally really hard to find the bad stuff if you don't spend much time on the internet. The internet is actually kinda boring so if your kids have somethinf more entertaining to do they'll pick that over the internet (hopefully).
nah old man this is the cyber future everyone is gonna be internet poisoned just like us. No way to put the cat back in the bag now, might as well embrace it.
I was about five when I first used the web but that was back when it was still just a bunch of static, hyperlinked pages.
It’s kind of crazy how much people’s perception of the internet has changed. After I chatted with someone from China for the first time I legit thought the internet was going to bring about world peace since everyone could chat so easily and get to know each other.
Rei Ayanami meme pfp says it all, this kid has seen some shit.
I cannot imagine the sheer extent to which discovering shadman would ruin the brain of a 13 year old...
I have no idea what that is and it sounds like I should keep things that way.
Well if I'm anything to go by they'll end up a 30-something failson Communist
BBSes
Blackberry internet/messaging? Or bulletin boards?
Thats cool! I'm the other one, grew up on Blackberry Messaging and Mixit.
I only played with BBSes for a year before the internet.
It was at the time revolutionary being able to play multiplayer games with people from around the world.
Some of the late MUDs had up to 100 concurrent players before MMOs existed.
I went from 14k to 56k to dual ISDN 128k to 1 megabit DSL in the span of two years. My dad's company paid for the ISDN lines they were like $400 a month way back when.
It was a helluva ride.
The first time I experienced high speed internet was at a friend's place whose dad had one for work (I forget what kind exactly), we were up all night, and I remember the moment when for the first time in my life I ran out of shit to do or look up online.
Boy howdy, have tech companies solved that problem via endless scrolling on your feeds.
Could your phone line actually deliver that speed though? Mine topped out at 33.6k or so.
Until I was at least 13, I only used the internet to access GameFAQs, to figure out where I'm supposed to go in Legend of Zelda. I wouldnt exactly call myself socially well-adjusted but I guess I could be worse
I was hanging out in weird Sonic the Hedgehog chatrooms, surprised nothing terrible happened to me
and by "on the internet since 3" they mean their parents plopped them down in front of some youtube kids on autoplay and they watched spiderman elsa needles pregnancy videos
Millenial but yea. This is probably the biggest generational divide
Infact there wasnt even really a social media about, maybe some niche forums i never went to.
Various chat rooms, which were also not great. "ASL?" Lmao
haven’t listened to them in ages but i lik them. Am i cringe?
___Nah they’re still Cool but uh Kool AD got kinda cancelled for being a predator at one point. I still listen to his stuff tho, I mean he’s literally the reason I got interested in leftist politics in the first place.
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LIKE THE BEATLES
BUT ON THE REEL I SWEAR IM BLACKER THAN CHEEDLE
i miss 2011 :(
