Bernie has been a liberal for basically his whole life. He has helped the US war machine kill countless people. No occasional good thing could ever counterbalance that.
If a lib is helping maintain a strike fund using their infrastructure, they're alright. Bernie is part of the system, but at least he's capable of occasionally showing solidarity with workers and not just photographing the homeless and drinking wine while the world burns.
You can only pick one. Maintaining a strike fund doesn't make him good. It just means he did a good thing - in the global north, and not in the global south where the damage of his actions has been concentrated.
He might not drink wine while the world burns, but he's just fine helping the people doing the burning along.
Agreed lmao, I'm 100% on your side on this one. Just want to say that this is actually good and we should be contributing to strike funds more often. If this is how his campaign infrastructure is gonna be utilized over the next 4 years I'm all for it.
Yeah, I don't mean to get aggro at you or anything. I agree with you that this is a good initiative, 100%. It's also a much better use of his campaign funds than most of the other things he'd be using them for.
Isn't there a quote from Deng where he analyzes Mao as 70% good, 30% bad, then Stalin as 60/40, then himself as 50/50?
My point being you have to take the good with the bad. Yeah it sucks that Bernie is a liberal who is part of the imperialist death machine, but even if he's only 10% good to 90% bad the good should be commended and the bad condemned.
and you seem to literally agree with the point of it lol
I literally do not, lmao. Americans bear some guilt for the actions of their government, but not nearly as much guilt as members of the government who vote to go to war.
i dont see the difference between 432 yay to 0 nay vs 431 yay to 1 nay, when you will be attacked and discredited for the no vote. I'd rather someone not sacrifice their position over literally nothing.
Most everyone here was a liberal at some point.
Bernie has been a liberal for basically his whole life. He has helped the US war machine kill countless people. No occasional good thing could ever counterbalance that.
If a lib is helping maintain a strike fund using their infrastructure, they're alright. Bernie is part of the system, but at least he's capable of occasionally showing solidarity with workers and not just photographing the homeless and drinking wine while the world burns.
You can only pick one. Maintaining a strike fund doesn't make him good. It just means he did a good thing - in the global north, and not in the global south where the damage of his actions has been concentrated.
He might not drink wine while the world burns, but he's just fine helping the people doing the burning along.
Agreed lmao, I'm 100% on your side on this one. Just want to say that this is actually good and we should be contributing to strike funds more often. If this is how his campaign infrastructure is gonna be utilized over the next 4 years I'm all for it.
Yeah, I don't mean to get aggro at you or anything. I agree with you that this is a good initiative, 100%. It's also a much better use of his campaign funds than most of the other things he'd be using them for.
Isn't there a quote from Deng where he analyzes Mao as 70% good, 30% bad, then Stalin as 60/40, then himself as 50/50?
My point being you have to take the good with the bad. Yeah it sucks that Bernie is a liberal who is part of the imperialist death machine, but even if he's only 10% good to 90% bad the good should be commended and the bad condemned.
Gotta be able to see correct action when it occurs and find a way to replicate it basically.
ok so have you by working in the US and paying taxes
Yes, every American is as guilty as a politician who votes to go to war. :centrist: And maybe don't assume everyone here is American.
Also, are the American people partially guilty for the actions of their government? :yes-comm: Of course they are.
Seriously, this looks like a :very-intelligent:-tier reply. What's your point?
the original comment is a :very-intelligent: comment so I reply using the same logic
and you seem to literally agree with the point of it lol
I literally do not, lmao. Americans bear some guilt for the actions of their government, but not nearly as much guilt as members of the government who vote to go to war.
Unbelievable that this needs to be spelled out.
i dont see the difference between 432 yay to 0 nay vs 431 yay to 1 nay, when you will be attacked and discredited for the no vote. I'd rather someone not sacrifice their position over literally nothing.
He has voted nay in some cases. Others have voted nay in some cases. Having principles doesn't magically make politicians disappear.
Peabrain take
it's almost like i don't actually believe that
"Was"
You’re right.
EVERYONE ELSE HERE IS STILL A LIBERAL!