the disaster is right now, unfolding in front of our eyes. collapse is pure ideology.

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    3 years ago

    Rome was sacked at least 3 times before it ceased to become an imperial entity, and then twice after that.

    • effervescent [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Hell, Britain is still in that process of expanding and shrinking, like a muscle that’s flexing to fight atrophy. They don’t actually expand influence anymore, but the fundamental mechanisms are still operational

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Wasn't even the first sacking post east/west divide? I think they'd arguably been pretty deep in the process of collapse at that point.

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        First one was 390BC, arguably before Rome's expansion.

        The other two were in the 400s, well after the split (which actually stabilised the Empire for a century along with other reforms) and then again twice during the Byzantine reconquest of Italy.