That's fair - but until more substantive evidence is presented (or at least have the victim make a formal accusation) I will not do the work of the liberal establishment and dismiss it as easily as they dismissed Tara Reade (who actually did make a formal accusation and had a whole pile of proof)
edit: that being said, if it turns out to be true I will of course call for justice, so long as that justice is not meted out by the illegitimate coup government but instead by a tribunal of the people
Deputy Minister Guido Melgar told a press conference on Thursday that photos taken from a mobile phone belonging to one of the woman's relatives show her while on trips with Mr Morales.
She was also 19, but they claim it must have been going on since she was 14. Also no comment from the woman or her family.
The role of the young woman's family in allegedly "allowing" Mr Morales to travel with her as a minor is also being investigated, Mr Melgar said.
So it looks like she was probably just traveling with him as a spokesperson for something and the parents allowed it because they supported MAS. This is like Bernie being investigated for doing speeches with the Sunrise Movement.
They have literally no evidence or even an accusation. This was entirely concocted by the interim government it looks like.
They also "investigating" the family, not asking them what happened. I'm for believing accusations, but there isn't even an accusation here. Just pictures of Evo with a kid that they got off one of her family member's phone.
I was just providing a very possible explanation for why he would be traveling with a kid and why the family would be okay with that. It's equally as valid as their claim as we have no comment from anyone involved beyond their heresay.
That's true it is equally possible. That's why I don't think we should say it's fake or real. It harms victims to claim it's fake without actually hearing the victim's side. It harms legitimacy if you claim it's true.
That info wasn't out when this was posted. I still stand by my original point of not claiming it's fake/real until you talk to the victim first.
Also being like "well we were right this time it wasn't a rape" is how Biden supporters justify not listening to Tara. Anyone can be a rapist, even people you like. Just have courtesy for a victim and wait until they talk before jumping the gun.
That's fair - but until more substantive evidence is presented (or at least have the victim make a formal accusation) I will not do the work of the liberal establishment and dismiss it as easily as they dismissed Tara Reade (who actually did make a formal accusation and had a whole pile of proof)
edit: that being said, if it turns out to be true I will of course call for justice, so long as that justice is not meted out by the illegitimate coup government but instead by a tribunal of the people
I guess my comment was more for the OP since they are making the claim it is fake.
She was also 19, but they claim it must have been going on since she was 14. Also no comment from the woman or her family.
So it looks like she was probably just traveling with him as a spokesperson for something and the parents allowed it because they supported MAS. This is like Bernie being investigated for doing speeches with the Sunrise Movement.
Where does it say she was traveling as a spokesperson? I thought there was no word out from the family.
I wouldn't say that's the same thing. If Bernie was traveling alone with a 14 year old I would say we should look into that too.
They have literally no evidence or even an accusation. This was entirely concocted by the interim government it looks like.
They also "investigating" the family, not asking them what happened. I'm for believing accusations, but there isn't even an accusation here. Just pictures of Evo with a kid that they got off one of her family member's phone.
I was just providing a very possible explanation for why he would be traveling with a kid and why the family would be okay with that. It's equally as valid as their claim as we have no comment from anyone involved beyond their heresay.
That's true it is equally possible. That's why I don't think we should say it's fake or real. It harms victims to claim it's fake without actually hearing the victim's side. It harms legitimacy if you claim it's true.
Turns out she was kidnapped and tortured by the interim fascists!
That info wasn't out when this was posted. I still stand by my original point of not claiming it's fake/real until you talk to the victim first.
Also being like "well we were right this time it wasn't a rape" is how Biden supporters justify not listening to Tara. Anyone can be a rapist, even people you like. Just have courtesy for a victim and wait until they talk before jumping the gun.