• MockingTurd [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Right I'm trying to get at the underlying principle here. On the one hand you got an obligation to uphold a person's right to autonomy; otoh you've got an obligation to the people that would die.

      • volkvulture [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        yes, the people who are at most risk of dying are the ones who choose not to get the vaccine, right? so it's about consent still at that point

                • MockingTurd [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  Lol cmon quit trying to make it a question I'm not asking. I get that you don't support the vaccine mandate for covid. That's fine I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm trying to understand is this just specific to covid? Or is it just on principle?

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                  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    I've been talking about America this whole time... I've heard waiting for advanced procedures in Canada is normal

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                      • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                        3 years ago

                        This thread's original subject matter was about America

                        Anti-vaxxers are an extreme minority, particularly among the most vulnerable populations.

                        Having waiting lists for specialists & risky operations I've always heard is quite normal

                        People choosing not to get the vaccine doesn't mean they're against the vaccine or don't believe in the science

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                            Canada has guarantees to serving everyone though, America doesn't

                            Canada also doesn't have the same kind of legal & social questions, and if the government implemented a mandate, there would be compliance

                            Waiting lists are normal, and since the pandemic has started the waits have increased

                        • WALLTHERICH [comrade/them]
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                          3 years ago

                          People choosing not to get the vaccine doesn’t mean they’re against the vaccine or don’t believe in the science

                          yes, it literally does