If they aren't class conscious workers yet. I also think "like" is a bit strong for what people feel towards the SPD, usually it's more like "hate them less than the CDU".
yeah aren't the SPD like the Dems of Germany, don't people call them the "trash partei SPD" because everyone is aware they suck ass. Isn't that why the greens are replacing them as the main opposition to CDU?
"Dems of Germany" is very fitting when it comes to the amount of defeatism, being ineffectual and wanting to work across the aisle. ofc it's still Europe, even the SPD is notably to the left of the US Democrats on a lot of stuff. While at the same time being slightly to the right of the Dems on some culture war issues. The differences between liberals and socdems are very marginal, but they're there.
It looked as if the Greens where replacing the SPD for quite a while, and that has already happened among zoomers, but a lot of older voters can't get rid of their sexist, racist, carnist and car culture brainworms, making the Greens too "radical" and "woke" for them. It's that part of reactionary boomer socdems that makes up the core electorate of the SPD.
This holds true for unionized workers, but Germany also has a fairly large share of workers who barely make minimum wage, or who make slightly more while being heavily exploited and overworked, especially in the large logistics sector (Germany is a major transport hub in Europe), in the food industry, in service work, in health care etc. There's very tangible material differences between these parts of the working class, very little class consciousness and a lot of "fuck you, i got mine" attitude.
ofc, a lot of the workers bearing the most precarious conditions aren't even allowed to vote in the first place because they're immigrants and getting citizenship takes at least 8 years of living here if people even bother to go through that whole process in the first place.
If they aren't class conscious workers yet. I also think "like" is a bit strong for what people feel towards the SPD, usually it's more like "hate them less than the CDU".
yeah aren't the SPD like the Dems of Germany, don't people call them the "trash partei SPD" because everyone is aware they suck ass. Isn't that why the greens are replacing them as the main opposition to CDU?
"Dems of Germany" is very fitting when it comes to the amount of defeatism, being ineffectual and wanting to work across the aisle. ofc it's still Europe, even the SPD is notably to the left of the US Democrats on a lot of stuff. While at the same time being slightly to the right of the Dems on some culture war issues. The differences between liberals and socdems are very marginal, but they're there.
It looked as if the Greens where replacing the SPD for quite a while, and that has already happened among zoomers, but a lot of older voters can't get rid of their sexist, racist, carnist and car culture brainworms, making the Greens too "radical" and "woke" for them. It's that part of reactionary boomer socdems that makes up the core electorate of the SPD.
Eh, germany is like labor aristocracy made flesh in industrial working population, who are very unionized. the other workers get shit on, true.
But unions for auto industry simp for spd, if I remember correctly
This holds true for unionized workers, but Germany also has a fairly large share of workers who barely make minimum wage, or who make slightly more while being heavily exploited and overworked, especially in the large logistics sector (Germany is a major transport hub in Europe), in the food industry, in service work, in health care etc. There's very tangible material differences between these parts of the working class, very little class consciousness and a lot of "fuck you, i got mine" attitude.
ofc, a lot of the workers bearing the most precarious conditions aren't even allowed to vote in the first place because they're immigrants and getting citizenship takes at least 8 years of living here if people even bother to go through that whole process in the first place.