• fox [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Honestly the worst part of anarchism being a popular tendency is that a bunch of fucking morons jump on it without bothering to know what it means beyond legal weed

  • Crowtee_Robot [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    People really think that Land Back is literally returning to traditional ways with the addition of a white slave class. Too many settlers fail to see the irony when they clutch their pearls at the thought of being forced to live in an "ethno-state".

    The level of projection gives me a headache.

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Oh man, imagine if america was an ethno state

      Just imagine...

      :deeper-sadness:

    • Phoenix_Ignition [undecided]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Yeah, you’d think indigenous people who have been considerably harmed by the advent of capitalism and the commodification of their culture would be unlikely to directly resemble “capitalist overlords”; even if they did, the less land settler governments and their corporations control the weaker capitalism becomes.

    • Brak [they/them, e/em/eir]
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      3 years ago

      People who think like this admit outright that Amerika is a country still dependent on slavery. They get very upset when you point this out.

  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    3 years ago

    name a more iconic duo than white people and expecting everyone else to act like we did.

  • PaulSmackage [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Fear: indigenous nations replacing capitalist overlords.

    Reality: "hey buddy, stop dumping ammonia and shit into the river. It's not good for it, ya know?"

    • Brak [they/them, e/em/eir]
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      3 years ago

      The world already tried patrioric socialism and it wound up with nazis.

      Edit: see longer explanation below

      • Theo [he/him,comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        This is just the left-wing version of conservatives who say "the Nazis were socialist, actually"

        Fascism is not a right wing form of socialism, it's the right wing of capitalism.

        • Brak [they/them, e/em/eir]
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          3 years ago

          No no, I should have been more clear. Nationalist / isolationist socialism led to abandonment of international solidarity and a weakening of the movement that created a power vacuum that was exploited by fascists.

          That lack of coherence created an opening for fascists to performitively appropriate some leftist imagery / terminology early on to con the working class into supporting reactionary “populist” orgs. Most of those aspects were then purged / dropped after seizing power. If I remember right, that’s part of what was happening during the night of the long knives.

          Similar to liberalism, social chauvinism’s self-centeredness causes it to advance the material conditions that reactionaries can exploit. It also almost always winds up in support of imperialism.

          This is different than “siege socialism” or “socialism in one country” in that those are responses to outside conditions and still have the eventual goal of international liberation. You have to protect the revolution within the current state apparatus the people have controlled for that international revolution to have a hope of occuring.

          Hope that was clear. It’s been a long day of work and I haven’t had my pumpkin spice latte yet. If I’m misusing some terms or something feel free to explain / walk me through.