• fed [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    yes there is no analysis or nuance needed of why someone would commit atrocities ,follow draft orders. i view history as something happened and there is no more analysis beyond that.

    for fucks sake this is literally a marxist website cmon :what:

    you can understand as a victim hating the actions of a person while also understanding material reasons for why they committed their actions. like rehabilitation is a thing for the worst of society ex. murderers and rapists. victims have forgiven such acts before, not that they are obligated to or should

    • Brak [they/them, e/em/eir]
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      3 years ago

      No one is saying there’s zero nuance. We are saying you start from a position of anti-imperialism and condemning genocide.

      Understanding how people are systemically funneled into fascism is important to combatting it. It does not absolve a person of having committed atrocities.

      Rehabilitation is important. It comes from a place of first acknowledging the evil a person has done.

      victims have forgiven such acts before

      When the predator admits guilt and asks for forgiveness. It’s also the victim’s choice whether they accept.

      • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        You don't understand! They might have had to experience poverty like those subhumans they genocided!

        • fed [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          are you ok? Like you replied to 4 of my comments and seem to not understand anything I’m saying.

          :wtf-am-i-reading:

    • silent_water [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      we can understand the reasons someone commits atrocities, understand that the economic factors that lead up to it, and still understand that they're fascists who must be fought, god damn.

        • silent_water [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          you're up and down this thread arguing that we should forgive genocidiers because of the reasons they had to commit or abet atrocities. no one is saying slaughter them. but neither can they simply be forgiven for what they did. rehabilitation and restitution require so much more than merely saying "I see the economic factors that forced your hand". you're engaging in apologia.

          • fed [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            i have not argued that we should forgive genociders, if i did feel free to copy and paste where i did. my point should be clear from my recent comments