I’m talking takes that make them immediately throw out the civility fetish and reach for the most crying wojack buzzwords in their vocabulary

  • CrimsonSage [any]
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    3 years ago

    Being Queer and not supporting the Dems 100%. Fastest way to see an "ally" morph into a vicious queer phobe.

    • pisshuffer_supreme [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I've seen so many straight liberals talk down to me and say shit like "the dems have been good for queer people you're just privileged"

      • CrimsonSage [any]
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        3 years ago

        It comes from the delusion that the Democrats have actually ever done anything for Queer people. This delusion comes from the fact that most Queer people, historically, have been democrats because the Dems have been marginally less homophobic. So what the party does is coopt the fact that most of the accomplishments of the Gay Rights Movement were done by independent grass roots activists. One of the things that really radicalized me was going back into the history of the past 20 years and realizing that the actual democratic party as an institution had done almost nothing to really support queer rights, and had often acted as a roadblock to them.

          • Three_Magpies [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Great encapsulation of Obama's playstyle.

            Being too timid to speak out in favor of gay marriage despite it being the big domestic social issue at the time (esp. among progressives). But he doesn't want to support gay marriage because that doesn't triangulate in the Midwest or what the fuck ever.

            So he plays it safe, then loses the House anyway, then gay marriage becomes legal anyway. maybe that's not the exact sequence of events but lol