Sure I guess it's good that people are substituting meat with plant based meats but how long until purely vegan cuisine becomes the norm? Fuck the impossible burgers, I want everyone to try chana masala, vegan food shouldn't be imitations of meat, that shit should be for the meateaters.

    • coconutsands [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I care, we aren't gonna have a culinary revolution until meat imitating food is less popular than vegan food that doesn't seek to imitate meat or animal products.

        • coconutsands [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Which is exactly why plant based imitations to meat exist, doesn't mean they should represent all of vegan food. Humanity is gonna hit a culinary wall if we don't innovate beyond trying to replicate the taste of meat.

            • coconutsands [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Because the whole point of imitation meat is to appeal to meat eaters, actual vegans aren't going out of their way to eat that stuff, it's a novelty if your actually a vegan.

                • coconutsands [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  The commercialization of veganism is inevitable, do you want most food to be imitations of meat or do you want organic food?

  • Phillipkdink [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    It's just a useful food shape. Cows meat isn't patty-shaped, pig meat isn't sausage-shaped. The meat gets shaped like that because those shapes are convenient to cook and eat in a bun.

    I don't really see a good argument for why you shouldn't do that with beans. It doesn't mean you don't eat beans and rice when you have more time to prepare food, but even if you don't who fucking cares?

  • Quimby [any, any]
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    3 years ago

    I both agree and disagree. I think "fake meat" is the wrong way to talk about and think about food. I also think tempeh, tofu, wheat gluten, etc are delicious in many preparations that are described in a meat-like way. I love the texture, in particular, of things like tempeh nuggets. The ideal to me is continuing to explore how to prepare protein fibers in cool ways, while talking about them in terms of what they actually are, instead of in reference to meat. i.e. "Soy nuggets" or "plant nuggets" instead of "chik'n". As another commenter said, nuggets are a great shape and style for food. There's just no reason they have to be tied to animals.

  • Kanna [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    I think that's one of the big problems I have with PBC bullshit. The framing of vegan cuisine shouldn't be "fake meat," because an animal's body isn't food. It also massively stifles creativity in cooking/meal prep. I switched to no PBC products earlier this year and I've become so much better at cooking because of it. I've tried many new recipes and kept my food rotation interesting

    When will the focus switch to that? Who knows. We have so many people that don't give a shit about animals and willingly kill them. For a higher percent of people than I like to think about, "fake meat" will be the only way they switch. In the meantime, talking about veganism and trying to shift how people view animals is the best we can do