This community seems to suffer from the contrarian brain worms of saying Jan 6 wasn't a big deal. One of you going as far as calling it a 'blueanon' conspiracy as if the footage was computer generated and a bunch of people upvoting.
I get how around here we're all way too cool to suggest there's a difference between neoliberalism and fascism. But you don't need to concede that to admit there was a mob deliberately mobilized by one branch/party to attack another. And that's back when we didn't have a fully conceived and disseminated plan in hand, and we didn't have people blowing the whistle on generals being complacent on the day, or how Mike Flynn's brother even managed to find himself in that position in the first place.
I thought we made fun of libs around here for not taking realpolitik seriously.
Well I'll say it I guess, Jan 6 wasn't a big deal. All of the issues it brings to the surface have been there for 40 years. The neoliberal foreclosure on any other political or economic future than a neofeudal corporate control over the direction of the country has long been in practice. If anything Jan 6 is the farce of the Reichstag fire. Unorganized, stupid, undisciplined, and wayward. The real almost impossible to correct changes in American liberal democracy, not that it wasn't always enthralled to capital, are still not new. What we see is that the fascist party is secondary when the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie has already wrestled all control.
I agree with your observations but your conclusion reads like "it's not a big deal this match went off; these oily rags have been piling up for decades"
Well but that's the point. No one taking a materialist approach to history can say that Jan 6 represents anything like a fundamental, organized threat to the last institutions standing in the way of fascist control. It's not that. The right wing reactionaries are more organized than most of the left right now, sure, but they aren't capable of organizing their way to coordinated radical political power. It's the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. None of these groups have any marked control over the levers of power, and most of the people that do have such power consider the grassroots fascism of the alt-right to be too destabilizing to allow any influence to them. It's a nice distraction from the looting and expropriating. Interesting sure, but not a particularly big deal in and of itself, or surprising.
This community seems to suffer from the contrarian brain worms of saying Jan 6 wasn't a big deal. One of you going as far as calling it a 'blueanon' conspiracy as if the footage was computer generated and a bunch of people upvoting.
I get how around here we're all way too cool to suggest there's a difference between neoliberalism and fascism. But you don't need to concede that to admit there was a mob deliberately mobilized by one branch/party to attack another. And that's back when we didn't have a fully conceived and disseminated plan in hand, and we didn't have people blowing the whistle on generals being complacent on the day, or how Mike Flynn's brother even managed to find himself in that position in the first place.
I thought we made fun of libs around here for not taking realpolitik seriously.
Well I'll say it I guess, Jan 6 wasn't a big deal. All of the issues it brings to the surface have been there for 40 years. The neoliberal foreclosure on any other political or economic future than a neofeudal corporate control over the direction of the country has long been in practice. If anything Jan 6 is the farce of the Reichstag fire. Unorganized, stupid, undisciplined, and wayward. The real almost impossible to correct changes in American liberal democracy, not that it wasn't always enthralled to capital, are still not new. What we see is that the fascist party is secondary when the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie has already wrestled all control.
I agree with your observations but your conclusion reads like "it's not a big deal this match went off; these oily rags have been piling up for decades"
Well but that's the point. No one taking a materialist approach to history can say that Jan 6 represents anything like a fundamental, organized threat to the last institutions standing in the way of fascist control. It's not that. The right wing reactionaries are more organized than most of the left right now, sure, but they aren't capable of organizing their way to coordinated radical political power. It's the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. None of these groups have any marked control over the levers of power, and most of the people that do have such power consider the grassroots fascism of the alt-right to be too destabilizing to allow any influence to them. It's a nice distraction from the looting and expropriating. Interesting sure, but not a particularly big deal in and of itself, or surprising.
January 6th wasn't a match, it was someone grabbing an oily rag and spinning it in air.
It made a mess and made the problem more visible, but didn't do much else.
Addendum: Ashley Babbit deserved it.