Quite convincing argument about the American experiment being finished in Nov. 2024.
Trump has built the first American mass political movement in the past century that is ready to fight by any means necessary, including bloodshed, for its cause.
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Lol
He was a first-generation Cuban American, a retired U.S. Army captain, the owner of an aluminum-roofing company, and a member of the Miami chapter of the Proud Boys, a far-right group with a penchant for street brawls.
It really sucks living in FL and having to interact with these people, though
:top-cop: Do not coup, do not coup. .... :cheeto-man: I"M GONNA COUP!
I don't understand how the anticipation of a coup attempt could serve as an excuse for losing an election.
"Of course we lost! We couldn't push that hard because we didn't want to provoke another coup attempt"
Only slightly more ridiculous than (and a natural extension of) the Dems' "bipartisan" compulsion
Unless biology intercedes, Donald Trump will seek and win the Republican nomination for president in 2024
When you're too much of a :LIB: to say "unless Trump dies"
Christ, this article. At least they acknowledge that the dems are unwilling to play to win, but even when I was a lib this would have been insulting.
Thousands of votes will be thrown away
Voting machines can be trivially rigged and we've known that for, what, 20 fucking years?
The winner will be declared the loser
The Supreme Court did this to Gore in 2000 and he accepted because libs love civility.
lumpen Trumpers
The class character of Jan 6 was petit-bourgeois.
wah wah cops were hurt
The cops are on Trump's side.
Citing the Pentagon to refute Q theories
The intelligence agencies and MIC have admitted they have scores of fascists in their ranks, they're not the good guys.
Trump and Milosevic both talk about foreigners attacking the country!
All right-wingers (including liberals) use ethnonationalist rhetoric, this isn't new.
The insurrectionists have a similar base as the IRA
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...and that's where I tapped out, this is just too long.
Holy shit though the part about the unhinged Q-general who thinks it was a false-flag carried out by antifa spec-ops because "some guy said he heard some other guy say they were playing antifa" and that they "looked like SOF people" is hilarious. Likewise, all the concern about "wait these 'normal americans' are fascists" makes me wonder if some libs will end up realizing they need wide-scale purges and re-education camps.
I think you have to separate brain worms from kernels of truth, so as to not be blindsided. Fascism need white grievance, yes, but also buyin from national bourgeoisie, which they just might get from petit/national one scared by worker strikes
I feel like the actual national bourgeoisie would buy into a "peaceful" fascist coup already. The only thing they're concerned with is short-term profitability, which means they want to avoid a civil-war-like scenario. This "peaceful" transition needs overwhelming numbers of fascists in the high offices of government and the military to carry it out, and the way things are going, we'll definitely get there in the future, but 2024 might not be it yet.
But they are orchestrating precisely that: electoral shenanigans at lower levels, which give just enough space for military say “eh”, dems say :vote: harder, so - peaceful.
Totally. But the neo-cons have done it before, and it's entirely separate from Jan 6th. About the only thing that the riot was useful for is as a barometer for the political climate. The willingness of militia-types to take up arms doesn't seem like it will have much to do with the success of american fascism.
lol at this article seriously saying “good sir! have you forgotten that 1/6 was the deadliest day for law enforcement since 9/11?”? like i’m paraphrasing but not at all exaggerating
This community seems to suffer from the contrarian brain worms of saying Jan 6 wasn't a big deal. One of you going as far as calling it a 'blueanon' conspiracy as if the footage was computer generated and a bunch of people upvoting.
I get how around here we're all way too cool to suggest there's a difference between neoliberalism and fascism. But you don't need to concede that to admit there was a mob deliberately mobilized by one branch/party to attack another. And that's back when we didn't have a fully conceived and disseminated plan in hand, and we didn't have people blowing the whistle on generals being complacent on the day, or how Mike Flynn's brother even managed to find himself in that position in the first place.
I thought we made fun of libs around here for not taking realpolitik seriously.
Well I'll say it I guess, Jan 6 wasn't a big deal. All of the issues it brings to the surface have been there for 40 years. The neoliberal foreclosure on any other political or economic future than a neofeudal corporate control over the direction of the country has long been in practice. If anything Jan 6 is the farce of the Reichstag fire. Unorganized, stupid, undisciplined, and wayward. The real almost impossible to correct changes in American liberal democracy, not that it wasn't always enthralled to capital, are still not new. What we see is that the fascist party is secondary when the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie has already wrestled all control.
I agree with your observations but your conclusion reads like "it's not a big deal this match went off; these oily rags have been piling up for decades"
Well but that's the point. No one taking a materialist approach to history can say that Jan 6 represents anything like a fundamental, organized threat to the last institutions standing in the way of fascist control. It's not that. The right wing reactionaries are more organized than most of the left right now, sure, but they aren't capable of organizing their way to coordinated radical political power. It's the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. None of these groups have any marked control over the levers of power, and most of the people that do have such power consider the grassroots fascism of the alt-right to be too destabilizing to allow any influence to them. It's a nice distraction from the looting and expropriating. Interesting sure, but not a particularly big deal in and of itself, or surprising.
January 6th wasn't a match, it was someone grabbing an oily rag and spinning it in air.
It made a mess and made the problem more visible, but didn't do much else.
Convincing argument for american piggies finally finding “stabbed-in-the-back” moment. On the other hand, trump is old
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Raised three billion for a campaign (Yuh)
