Can someone give me good news? Maybe this is a fake story?

  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Some billionaires will continue to fantasize about escaping this and fleeing to Mars!

    you mean the billionaires want you to think that they actually think that

    no billionaire is dumb enough to think that--in reality they all have isolated bunkers and humongous plots of farmland which they will fuck off to.

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      • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        but a few really do get high on their own supply. Steve Jobs effectively killed himself

        True, but liver cancer is way more complicated than global warming.

        as dumb as Steve was, it's infinitely more plausible to believe that "cancer can be cured by fruitarianism" than to believe that "global warming will be fine"

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          • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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            True, but what billionaire doesn't own farmland? All it takes to outrun climate change (for a billionaire) is to buy a few acres of farmland in a sparsely populated region, and build a bunker nearby.

            Even if they truly believe they can fix climate change, all they need to do is take a private jet ride when it becomes obvious that they're wrong. They can literally wait until the last minute, their "yes men" will literally fly the jet to them just before the cities start burning down.

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              • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                Yeah, there are billionaires who have explicitly built underground bunkers in bumfuck Canada surrounded by dozens or hundreds of acres of farmland

                But even the "bluepilled" billionaires own SOME farmland. And they have private jets. It's as simple as "holy shit the supply chains are collapsing, I was wrong, I have to gtfo" and then they just do it. Because y'know, they own a private jet. simple

      • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        I don't think elon is that dumb. I think he knows that people are that dumb, and he enjoys acting dumb. He knows his companies are worthless, and he's just milking it and making IRL SimCity plans (which will only ever be plans) for as long as the facade lasts.

        The only things that fundamentally matter are land food and guns. I don't think there are any billionaires that are too stupid to realize this

        • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Has Elon bought up a bunch of arable land? I'm pretty sure Elon is that dumb, in the same way Trump is just as dumb as people think he is. They have a kind of self awareness but not enough that questioning themselves ever happens, they just insist a thing is true and their yes people agree.

          • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            Has Elon bought up a bunch of arable land?

            has he not?

            It's not like the news would report "Elon just bought 200 acres of land". Bill gates had to buy 269,000 for them to report on it. For reference it takes 2.67 acres to sustain a person comfortably (US style diet). Maybe bump that up to 6 acres to account for inefficient use due to newbie farming skills.

            Nobody is going to report on a billionaire buying the amount of land needed to sustain them, because it's just such a tiny amount of land that it's forgettable in comparison to everything else they do.

            You could theoretically buy a hovel and store some canned sardines and lentils in there to last you 5 years. The food supply would cost only a couple thousand bucks. People's survival needs aren't expensive.

            • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              If you're just talking about a contingency plan, I don't think that implies Elon thinks he's wrong, just that he's hedging a bet. I'm sure you've read stuff about him back in the aughts etc but none of the accounts of him back then suggest to me that he's particularly grounded in reality.

              • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                there are two basic interpretations of the "mars" plan

                1. humans will terraform mars and it'll become a major haven for human life. This is what some people unironically believe and it is obviously totally delusional.

                2. humans will spend enormous amounts of money to create a base on mars or the moon

                I think #2 is possible, and probably is what elon is trying to make happen or believes can happen. I don't think that's particularly unreasonable

    • TheSandwhich [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Space flight is just a money put used for people interested in asteroid mining and creating sealed environments to live in when they go galt