• Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    If Ukraine loses and is forced to offer serious concessions to Russia (unlike the deal they already had and NATO prevented), the well armed extremists in Ukraine will go crazy. And they will probably be by far the most powerful faction. We could see terrorist attacks all over Europe from them.

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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      6 months ago

      Wait, but what if one of them rallies people by saying how their leadership betrayed them and it was because of the influence of powerful Jews? seen-this-one

        • edge [he/him]
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          6 months ago

          Hopefully Russia actually enforces "de-Nazification". At the very least by whacking any Nazi gaining power.

          But that's probably wishful thinking.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            6 months ago

            idk. Supposedly Putin et al did crack down on openly Nazi gangs in Russia, but I have no idea if they applied the same verve to fascist russian nationalists.

            • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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              6 months ago

              Putin is a very wealthy anti communist who has the support of the capitalist hegemony in Russia (for now)

              It's not in his interest to do more than the barest minimum about those types of people

    • BlueMagaChud [any]
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      6 months ago

      we will, they'll need Strategy of Tension ops to bring restive labor to heel and these guys will be ripe for the job

    • Kaplya
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      6 months ago

      This is exactly what the US wants though. As Europe becomes more destabilized and uninhabitable, more and more people (especially skilled workers and highly educated professionals) will be looking for a way out.

      Some will probably go to places like China, but the vast majority of them will end up in the US as cheap labor with H-1B visas, competing and dragging down domestic wages. Literally cheap labor from Europe.

      The irony is that this was exactly what the EU did to the post-Soviet states in the 1990s. A lot of brain drain from post-Soviet Russia and Europe practically received a whole bunch of cheap skilled workers taught by a very high quality Soviet education system. This is shock therapy in action.

      This is what Western imperialism has been doing to the Global South over the past century, with economic migrants moving to Western countries.

      Only this time it is happening to the Europeans themselves.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      6 months ago

      i really wonder, though, how much of the ultra-nationalist turbo nazis are once again fertilizing the fields of Ukraine as their heros in the SS Galacian division did so long ago. What happens in obviously failed wars like this? Do the ideological troops go in to hiding so they can do terrorism later, or do they all fight to the last and end up dead?

      • nohaybanda [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        I suspect the smarter ones are already on their way to Canada

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          6 months ago

          Mushrooms returning to the fetid pile of shit from which they bloomed.

  • davel [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    So I can drop the Ukrainian flag from my display name now?

    • edge [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      Anyone with it still in their display name is probably pretty committed. It'll probably stick around until the war is actually over, and a little past that.

      • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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        6 months ago

        Depends on how they go about selling it to people. I think it will probably be an "evil corrupt Ukraine tricked the west into supporting them" kind of narrative, so a lot of these Ukraine flaggers will change it out of outrage to whatever the next big thing they're told to support is (probably Israel atm) The NAFO dorks have already moved onto that and the rest of the libs will probably follow suite soon enough.

        • edge [he/him]
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          6 months ago

          I don't think they would sell it, but the opposite, just stop talking about it and hope people forget. But most people have already forgotten anyway, so anyone left might take a little longer.

  • SexUnderSocialism [she/her]
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    6 months ago

    2.5k comments

    I'm sure it'll be a comment section full of "nuance" and "civility", and complete understanding of this "complicated" decision. biden-troll

    • SexUnderSocialism [she/her]
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      6 months ago

      Seems fitting considering they're essentially running the biggest criminal organization in the world.

  • Egon [they/them]
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    6 months ago

    This. Is. A. Return. On. Investment. In. Democracy.

    • Egon [they/them]
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      6 months ago

      Love to liquidate my democracy stock for a democracy payout. Smh should've waited on the democracy dividends. It's a democracy bear market tbh. Putin is shorting democracy the dastardly villaine