"we agree with the Ron Paul alt-right, the state must be destroyed, but that doesn't make us nazis! I'm woke comrade, I'm wooooooke!!!"

Both him and Marx agreed that the Paris commune was a good example of workers councils

Marx is famous for dunking on radlibs for being world-historic failures who were too foolish to organize workers correctly

Bakunin were bigots and that they were aiming at stateless Communism where if someone was bigoted they would have no power harm other people as there would be no higher power than the individual in free Assocating Communes. Unlike Lenin who had power and is a mass murderer

"I can't be fascist if I become a powerless little smol bean uwu...just go play with Tommy if you don't like playing with that mean antisemite Suzy!" The utopian politics of free association apparently requires everyone regressing into dayschool and lacking the ability to have any material effect on the world?

also libertarianism is famously not at all "powerless" when it makes economic transactions through "free associations". Does this moron not realize they're typing on a Silicon Valley neo-feudalist website? Totally idealist and utopian, no materialism at all

  • RedEngineer22 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    See, the thing is, Bakunin's theory can't be separated from his anti Semitism. His reason why the state was bad? "The Jews will control it". The argument for de-centralization? "The Jews can't control it". The only way you can put his theory into practice is with the use of rabid anti Semitism.

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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      3 years ago

      Not just that "the jews will control it" but that he insinuated that Jews as a whole acted as a monolithic political bloc, who at any opportunity attempted to exploit the state to promote jewish control of society, Jews were not a people or religion, but more like a party or class in itself to Bakunin.

      I also find it funny that I found a defense of Bakunins views that essentially amounted to "Well, he didnt write about it that many times, and anyways Marx was mean to him so he had a heated debatebro moment".

      • RedEngineer22 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I hope someone maybe, y'know, tells the delusional anarchist that they're defending an insanely anti-semitic theorist.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Feels bad. Bakunin was my first step on the road to communism. Glad I left him behind in favor of :lenin-cat: