"we agree with the Ron Paul alt-right, the state must be destroyed, but that doesn't make us nazis! I'm woke comrade, I'm wooooooke!!!"

Both him and Marx agreed that the Paris commune was a good example of workers councils

Marx is famous for dunking on radlibs for being world-historic failures who were too foolish to organize workers correctly

Bakunin were bigots and that they were aiming at stateless Communism where if someone was bigoted they would have no power harm other people as there would be no higher power than the individual in free Assocating Communes. Unlike Lenin who had power and is a mass murderer

"I can't be fascist if I become a powerless little smol bean uwu...just go play with Tommy if you don't like playing with that mean antisemite Suzy!" The utopian politics of free association apparently requires everyone regressing into dayschool and lacking the ability to have any material effect on the world?

also libertarianism is famously not at all "powerless" when it makes economic transactions through "free associations". Does this moron not realize they're typing on a Silicon Valley neo-feudalist website? Totally idealist and utopian, no materialism at all

  • RedEngineer22 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    See, the thing is, Bakunin's theory can't be separated from his anti Semitism. His reason why the state was bad? "The Jews will control it". The argument for de-centralization? "The Jews can't control it". The only way you can put his theory into practice is with the use of rabid anti Semitism.

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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      3 years ago

      Not just that "the jews will control it" but that he insinuated that Jews as a whole acted as a monolithic political bloc, who at any opportunity attempted to exploit the state to promote jewish control of society, Jews were not a people or religion, but more like a party or class in itself to Bakunin.

      I also find it funny that I found a defense of Bakunins views that essentially amounted to "Well, he didnt write about it that many times, and anyways Marx was mean to him so he had a heated debatebro moment".

      • RedEngineer22 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I hope someone maybe, y'know, tells the delusional anarchist that they're defending an insanely anti-semitic theorist.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Feels bad. Bakunin was my first step on the road to communism. Glad I left him behind in favor of :lenin-cat:

  • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Both him and Marx agreed that the Paris commune was a good example of workers councils.

    I would like my Communism to last more than two months but maybe that's just me.

  • Lundi [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    starting to get the feeling bmf just wants dunk on woke people or w/e...

  • ToastGhost [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    and bmf dips into sectarianism again, just in time for wammawink to take over the bmf dynasty

  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    tbh learning about early Jews and Christianity is race-pilling me

    The Jewish prophet, Christ, stands against Roman imperialism and Roman puppets
    is ostracized by Jewish normies
    gathers a following of based and redpilled Jews
    Jewish normies soon learn their lesson the hard way
    Christianity becomes popular
    so popular that mediterrano-mayos end up adopting it because it's the new fad/ "in"-thing
    but of course we still hate Jews

    mayos will always appropriate whatever-is-en-vogue-at-the-moment and continue to hate the people who made it

    • WhyEssEff [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      tbh learning about early Jews and Christianity is race-pilling me

      :fidel-wut: this could have um, gone a very very different direction. you might want to rephrase that a bit so people like me who can't instantaneously parse greentext perspective formatting don't immediately jump to conclusions lmfao