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  • coeliacmccarthy [he/him, they/them]
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    I think humans are too hard 2 kill for near term extinction but a population reduced to a few million individuals in polar, alpine and subterranean habitats is definitely plausible

    • Parzivus [any]
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      That's a wildly doomer take even with the most dire predictions of climate change, you can't just casually speculate about the death of over 99% of the population

      • PhaseFour [he/him]
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        A 7 celsius temperature increase by 2100 completely within the realm of possibility. Over the past several hundred millions years, global temperature has only varied 18 degrees celsius.

        Such an increase will be 5 degrees celsius higher than any temperature humans have lived through. This is over the course of one century.

        It is possible that the Earth can only sustain a few million people under conditions never before experienced by humanity, when the rate of change has never been seen in Earth's history.

        • Parzivus [any]
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          It is possible that the Earth can only sustain a few million people under conditions never before experienced by humanity, when the rate of change has never been seen in Earth’s history.

          The carrying capacity of the Earth now or in the future is unknown and could change wildly. Who's to say that innovation won't keep up with population, to some degree? Where would we be without antibiotics, vaccines, modern farming advancements, none of which existed before 1900?
          The past century has seen the most change for humans in their history, the outcome of that shouldn't be assumed as negative. It can absolutely be hard to hold onto hope with the way the future looks, but I really hate replies like this that are just "we're probably fucked lol," it accomplishes nothing but spreading a shitty apathetic attitude that nothing can be done.

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            “we’re probably fucked lol,”

            Where did I say that? You are projecting way too much lmao

            • Parzivus [any]
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              It is possible that the Earth can only sustain a few million people

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                Yes. It is. That is a possibility people need to grapple with. I'm not saying that's guaranteed nor that people should be fucking babies & give up.

                • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                  I've been playing that Frostpunk game lately and it definitely makes me appreciate just how hard dealing with climate apocalypse will be, but also that no matter how bad things get you always need to keep going.

                  We're definitely going to see a collapse of nationalism just from crumbling infrastructure and the need for cities to become self sufficient quickly.