Seems pretty clear he did more, despite completely bungling multiple things. Also, Joe Biden still owes me $1400 dollars

  • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    There's no evidence to support the statement. I think it's a little too-online :brainworms: , comrade.

    Trump did not impose any lockdowns. The states did, and then Trump went out of his way to pressure states to ending them. He literally threatened to withhold PPE from states that opposed him. Trump gets zero credit for lockdowns.

    Every bit of covid relief Trump passed was also passed alongside Democratic approval. The GOP opposed the second stimulus and we only got the second $600 because :bernie: threatened a government shutdown.

    Trump's covid stimulus was a massive upwards transfer of wealth because of the PPP corporate slush fund. Biden's was a downwards transfer of wealth that cut child poverty nearly in half overnight.

    Trump opposes all mask mandates. Biden extended one to federal property.

    Trump ended unemployment expansion. Biden brought it back temporarily.

    Trump scheduled the student loan pause to end. Biden keeps pushing it back.

    Trump's judges overturned Biden's extension of the eviction ban. They may very well do the same for the vaccine mandate, which Trump never would have authorized.

    None of this is a defense of Biden's handling of covid, which has been poor. There is absolutely no intelligent case that Trump's response was better, equal, or even close. If you tried to explain to a person who is not on the internet all the time why Trump handled covid better you would look foolish for good reason. There is no left-"Trump was better" argument. It's not based in any science or solidarity with frontliners/immunocompromised, it's a brainworms "own the libs" argument. It just completely falls apart when you look at the facts.

    • CrimsonSage [any]
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      3 years ago

      This, as fucking terrible as the Dems are they at least can be forced to do good things. The republicans are just a fucking Fascist death cult.

      • congressbaseballfan [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Some. There are a few like McConnell who are a capital death cult, where capital doesn’t necessarily jive with the far right fascists, who in someways would be bad for capital policywise despite their subservience

    • mr_world [they/them]
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      There is no left-wing “Trump was better” argument.

      Except for Trump being in office lit a fire under Democratic asses and made them go super hard contrarian on pandemic response. Now they can be more lax and it's okay because the rational adults are in charge and we don't have to worry about it anymore. To be fair, this isn't an argument that Trump's response was better, just that his presence caused Democrats to try a little harder. Even when Biden fucks up and does something wrong, the media coverage will be completely different or non-existent. So Biden's criticisms won't be front-page news an therefore not as prevalent in online discussions like this one.

    • congressbaseballfan [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Returning to this to dispute the downward distribution that cut child poverty in half overnight, considering that calculation (though accurate) included minimum wage increase. Doesn’t refute your point. But build back better no passing by that logic doubles child poverty

      • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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        Yeah I think I overstated there with "by half", thanks for the correction. I'll find a better estimate. Bernie Tweeted out 40% from the CTC alone a couple days ago fwiw, but I'll see where the source is.

        • congressbaseballfan [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Not blaming you - it was advertised as such. Libs on twitter were parroting that shit. I am just tickled that I get an opportunity to tell them Biden Doubled child poverty since he didn’t reinstate it cuz manchin (I don’t think he wanted to anyway though tbh)

      • congressbaseballfan [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        But it’s not necessarily covid related. That’s where progressives stuck it. Notable is that without this being extended there will be a doubling of child poverty overnight under Biden, which sounds worse than reducing poverty by half

        But yeah, that also included the minimum wage raise - not sure what proportion that accounts for. Probably less than 20%, but still important.