But seriously, why didn't communism triumph in the 20th century when things were looking so good? If the russian revolution and chinese revolution can succeed, liberating 800 million people, 1/3rd of the world's population, defeat the nazis, why couldnt we finish the final stretch? What was the fatal flaw?
The one constant you can find in every single one of the Bolshevik's writings during 1917-1923 is that they all expected a follow-up revolution in Western Europe, most likely in Germany. It almost happened, too: Spartacist uprising, Ruhr uprising, Hungarian Soviet Republic, Bavarian Soviet Republic, Europe was on fucking fire. However, the European revolution failed. The Bolsheviks had no choice but to make due and remain on their little island, doing what they can to survive and maybe spread Revolution later on. An opportunity came for that post-WW2, but Stalin, god bless his liberal soul, cucked out and let the West set the table for the following Cold War instead of being more proactive. He also made a bunch of crucial mistakes that pretty much fucked the SU later on, mainly purging the wrong people and letting people like Beria and Khrushchev be the future of the Soviet Union. The USSR was always at a disadvantage, the fact that they survive this long and managed to expand the Socialist camp into Eastern Europe is already a miracle in itself.
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pretty much. it is the same reason those parties largely went along with WW1. Ireland was the first, even before the Russians, and eventually ended up being the only other european revolution of that time to somewhat stick even if betrayed and leading to a civil war. I think much of that comes from the fact that the irish by and far didn't have the opportunity for comfort. You had the classic Irish elite who sold them out sure, but some concessions had to be made to them because their status as a colonized people made for a contradiction that could not even be temporarily resolved. You never got something close to that in Germany, while in Ireland people who otherwise would be SPD or tuned out of politics, engaged in revolutionary action and aligned with the nascent Soviet Union
As the other commenter said, Matt Christman and his co-host has talked about it in one of the Hinge Points episodes and broadly goes through the events. The series as a whole is a good listen and pretty interesting.
It’s funny that the chapos get a lot of shit for being libs but Matt consistently has great takes and actually knows his history.
Yeah, when listening to them, I can see why most serious communists on here who believe in AES and love the USSR don't like the Chapos very much. Definitely some weird takes here and there. But I think they collectively have one of the less shit opinions about China if you absolutely have to be a typical western leftist who hates any socialism that isn't theoretical, which is basically "Think what you want about China but if you're more concerned about what the Chinese government is doing, which you have no way of affecting, than what the United States is doing, which you can theoretically affect, you're a fucking moron." Unfortunately I think their influence on the younger left has diminished due to the rise of breadtube and their epic twitch streamers but they still have one of the largest Patreon bases on the website, which is something.
And yeah, Matt is legitimately very intelligent and I agree with the vast majority of his takes. And even the ones I don't agree with, I sorta have to be like "Well, he's read his shit so at least I know he's coming at this from a place of knowledge and good faith and not just agreeing/disagreeing with something because he doesn't know shit about it." He's honestly probably one of the best thinkers we have on the left, certainly in the top 10% of at least vaguely prominent socialists alive today, just because he's done the goddamn reading.
communism is when you believe in AES and love the USSR
A bunch of things, like the SPDs betrayal. But ultimately The Battle of Warsaw prevented the Soviets giving direct support to any revolutionary outbreak.
they failed to arm themselves I think?
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Extreme :doubt: for this, especially on the grounds that it's ridiculous to think Trotsky's presence would have been the deciding factor in a successful western/central European revolution.
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Trotsky and part of the Red Army doing an Internationalism
World War 2 20 years earlier with an excuse for the entire west to openly ally with the fascists.
That's fair but if German Communists won there wouldn't have been a Third Reich. I also think France would have been rolled BC of how underindustrialized France is compared to Germany, even up to today.
Communist France could also have flipped the Spanish Civil War so the only capitalist power left on the continent would have been TERF island.
The Russian people were tired of war though the continuation of WW1 and the fact that major land reform wasn't possible during a massive war were huge factors that brought down Kerensky they were what stopped there being bread peace and land