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Vaush proving what we all already knew: That all pedophiles are nazis and all nazis are pedophiles.
lol at the v*ushite debatebro in the top comment thread
You're right, there is no objective right or wrong, that is why it's important you are capable of explaining what good or bad mean to you and how you come to these conclusions. If you can't do that then you can never resolve any dispute on moral claims at all. When you say genocide is bad why should I listen to you over a nazi who says it's good? How can I tell who's right?
"debate me bro or else how will i know whether genocide is bad?"
edit: because i hate myself i went and had a look at r/vaushv and lol
Everything this idiot was saying reminded me of Sam Harris and the whole moral landscape thing, like I think he was getting at a crude pseudo-utilitarianism where there's suffering points and happiness points and we have to tilt the see-saw to gain more happiness points. It goes off the rails because it came across to me like he was arguing for making ethical decisions for events before they even happen, which can't be done because they aren't real events. It just goes into the realm of imagination. Thought experiments can be useful, but if you can just make up anything, you can justify any action you want.
He seemed so rigid in his conviction that only strictly held ethical doctrines are valid he rejected anything about making moral judgements without appealing to a particular ethical ideology. It didn't make sense at all to me. The other guy clearly articulated how dialectical materialism can determine if a person or class has control over the functional aspects of their own lives and if not, what sort of barriers exist. That's the moral framework right there, have more people have more input into the content of their daily lives. Reduce or eliminate alienation. That's the greatest gift a successful Marxist movement can achieve and it's right there built into the concept. It doesn't even necessarily contradict idealist utilitarianism, at least I don't see how it would.
Idiot just rejected that entirely and backed himself into an antisemitic corner somehow, like Sideshow Bob walking into a rake but claiming he meant to do that as an experiment
I referenced the “tactical” joke (expecting him to get the reference) he found the killstream clip and was shocked and basically said he refused to watch vaush anymore. Shortly after he discovered the Poppy incident as well and it went downhill from there.
They have distinct names for the times he went mask-off lol. this guy is making an ass out of himself so often that they need code names for his reactionary blunders.
I then went on to say that even in modern day, our current media has a lot of Jewish presence in it
what. the. fuck. what the actual fuck did i just read.
Now of course my friend then essentially accused me of believing in the JQ and called what I said “antisemitism 101”. I admit maybe I phrased parts of it badly, but I assumed my friend would be smart enough to engage with my words and not believe a 10 second clip or assume I was a Nazi.
no shit sherlock. btw, you're already talking like a fucking nazi again.
jfc, i don't know if i want to read the replies when the OP is already off to a start like that. That's a troll, right? This guy is deliberately pretending to be an antisemite to make v*ush fans look even worse, right?
Everyone acting like it's a massive dramatic betrayal of the friendship to want to distance yourself from someone you see as a nazi. These fucking people, goddamn.
Also that one dude "Your friend sounds young, they're usually dramatic like this." :wonder-who-thats-for:
lol at the v*ushite debatebro in the top comment thread
"debate me bro or else how will i know whether genocide is bad?"
edit: because i hate myself i went and had a look at r/vaushv and lol
:wonder-who-thats-for:
fuck dude you just entered into an infinite loop nooooooooooo
All he did was repeat "why?" Like a toddler and then defend nazis.
Idiots think the Socratic method is the only thing Socrates had.
every dipshit wanna be like socrates but none of them wanna drink hemlock smh
He also had a giant hog
one of the replies:
^ 30 points on :reddit-logo:
That comment alone is why I am now tracking r/vaushv as a 'pedophile' subreddit
The comment is accurate if they're referring to V*ush and his supporters.
These people lack the basic philosophical skills they claim to adore.
Also straight up have no empathy.
Moral relativism is for cowards anyway. "Be nice to people and oppose exploitative power" isn't that fucking hard.
Moral relativism is an excuse white liberals use to justify inaction.
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Everything this idiot was saying reminded me of Sam Harris and the whole moral landscape thing, like I think he was getting at a crude pseudo-utilitarianism where there's suffering points and happiness points and we have to tilt the see-saw to gain more happiness points. It goes off the rails because it came across to me like he was arguing for making ethical decisions for events before they even happen, which can't be done because they aren't real events. It just goes into the realm of imagination. Thought experiments can be useful, but if you can just make up anything, you can justify any action you want.
He seemed so rigid in his conviction that only strictly held ethical doctrines are valid he rejected anything about making moral judgements without appealing to a particular ethical ideology. It didn't make sense at all to me. The other guy clearly articulated how dialectical materialism can determine if a person or class has control over the functional aspects of their own lives and if not, what sort of barriers exist. That's the moral framework right there, have more people have more input into the content of their daily lives. Reduce or eliminate alienation. That's the greatest gift a successful Marxist movement can achieve and it's right there built into the concept. It doesn't even necessarily contradict idealist utilitarianism, at least I don't see how it would.
Idiot just rejected that entirely and backed himself into an antisemitic corner somehow, like Sideshow Bob walking into a rake but claiming he meant to do that as an experiment
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how can you have a moral code if you dont follow the bible,,,,
They have distinct names for the times he went mask-off lol. this guy is making an ass out of himself so often that they need code names for his reactionary blunders.
what. the. fuck. what the actual fuck did i just read.
no shit sherlock. btw, you're already talking like a fucking nazi again.
jfc, i don't know if i want to read the replies when the OP is already off to a start like that. That's a troll, right? This guy is deliberately pretending to be an antisemite to make v*ush fans look even worse, right?
reads comments anyway
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lol that thread
Everyone acting like it's a massive dramatic betrayal of the friendship to want to distance yourself from someone you see as a nazi. These fucking people, goddamn.
Also that one dude "Your friend sounds young, they're usually dramatic like this." :wonder-who-thats-for:
Holy shit that link. Fucking epic. ... ... yep the content there is bad enough to justify tracking the entire subreddit.
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