No. The "imminent" invasion is a straight up lie by the US/UK who want an excuse to restart the "Great Game" and are using Ukraine as a pawn to try to take down Russia. Russia is a preferred target vs China because the UK has had a looong historical grudge against Russia, and even the morons in charge of US/UK policy realize they aren't strong enough to take on China. Knocking off another rival - Russia - and incorporating them into the Empire strengthens their position though.
Lying about "Russian aggression" is an age-old state tactic to give them free reign to send arms to Ukrainian Nazis, similar to funding the Taliban to counter the Soviets. It also raises the stakes and tries to goad Russia into an act that can be portrayed as an "invasion".
Question for you, I've been hit with the counter claim that the presence of Nazis in the ranks of Ukrainian paramilitaries is overstated and largely a product of Russian propaganda. I've struggled to find sources that aren't rt to help back it up, but mostly just get those same photos of azov that we've all seen. Do you have source libs won't have wave away?
It doesn't really hinder my overall argument since the cias involvement is extremely well reported, all the way back to 2014-15. the Nazi stuff is a nice catalyst to get libs to change their pov so is like to be able to use it
It's impossible to prove, by design, because any fighting force is going to have a mixed composition. Those libs are gonna claim anything that portrays the West/the West's friends in a bad light as "propaganda". The general composition of pro-Euromaidan and anti-Euromaidan should give you an idea of who's on which side. Sure, the Nazi composition might be overstated, but there sure are a lot of Nazi groups on their side, as well as various groups described as "ultranationalist" "national conservative", etc. Certainly gets the old noggin' joggin' even if they arent "Nazis".
There's also the fact that the US is currently prosecuting American far-right people who got caught committing war crimes in Donbas. One link.
No. The "imminent" invasion is a straight up lie by the US/UK who want an excuse to restart the "Great Game" and are using Ukraine as a pawn to try to take down Russia. Russia is a preferred target vs China because the UK has had a looong historical grudge against Russia, and even the morons in charge of US/UK policy realize they aren't strong enough to take on China. Knocking off another rival - Russia - and incorporating them into the Empire strengthens their position though.
Lying about "Russian aggression" is an age-old state tactic to give them free reign to send arms to Ukrainian Nazis, similar to funding the Taliban to counter the Soviets. It also raises the stakes and tries to goad Russia into an act that can be portrayed as an "invasion".
Question for you, I've been hit with the counter claim that the presence of Nazis in the ranks of Ukrainian paramilitaries is overstated and largely a product of Russian propaganda. I've struggled to find sources that aren't rt to help back it up, but mostly just get those same photos of azov that we've all seen. Do you have source libs won't have wave away?
It doesn't really hinder my overall argument since the cias involvement is extremely well reported, all the way back to 2014-15. the Nazi stuff is a nice catalyst to get libs to change their pov so is like to be able to use it
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Right Sector took their flag from the WW2 Ukrainian Insurgent Army who collaborated with the Nazis.
It's impossible to prove, by design, because any fighting force is going to have a mixed composition. Those libs are gonna claim anything that portrays the West/the West's friends in a bad light as "propaganda". The general composition of pro-Euromaidan and anti-Euromaidan should give you an idea of who's on which side. Sure, the Nazi composition might be overstated, but there sure are a lot of Nazi groups on their side, as well as various groups described as "ultranationalist" "national conservative", etc. Certainly gets the old noggin' joggin' even if they arent "Nazis".
There's also the fact that the US is currently prosecuting American far-right people who got caught committing war crimes in Donbas. One link.
Like, isn’t Ukraine just have a huge rally memorial for a Nazi soldier, that even Israel have to come out and told them to stop?
on the Nazi presence
So this is Stepan Bandera whos Portait is was Hanging Proud from the Cityhall of Ternopil until the Wind took Merci on us..
https://twitter.com/DeanoBeano1/status/1482327990121947147 google the guy ..
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