Mike Judge and Greg Daniels will be doing it, but I still don’t know how I feel about it. It’s one of my, if not my favorite show. I guess them being in charge gives me some reassurance that it’s not going to be complete trash. Sorry if this is the wrong comm, I wasn’t sure where to post this.

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    The fact that Hank is the conservative liberals wish existed is going to show even harder and be really obnoxious this time around.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    King of the Hill is probably my favorite cartoon of all time. It's the most scathingly accurate portrayal of white folk problems. I don't know how well it would work now because part of the show was how charmingly clueless the characters were. They meant well, but would default to a kind of suburban Texan conservatism. There was that one episode where Hank got terrified because Luanne put a "vote communist" sign in the front yard, but the politics were never really addressed, Hank is just kind of naive and goofy. He's got naive white guy racism, like when he asks Khan if he's Chinese or Japanese. Hank's dad is an outright racist who killed fitty men. Peggy is a goofball racist who believes herself to be an honorary Mexican. Etc etc

    Those same suburban confused conservatives have all mostly morphed into outright vocal racists or Qanon conspiracy theorists now. It's no longer charming cluelessness, or rather, now we see it never really was. It was always white supremacist imperialism, we could just laugh at how silly it was.

    King of the Hill bowed out at exactly the right time.

    • necrocop [he/him,any]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Very well put. I think no matter how they do new episodes, it’s going to be a stain on the series. They were truly characters of a different era. I don’t really want to see where they are at today. I don’t see them doing any political commentary that isn’t cringe. I mean they could attempt to skirt politics and just to sitcom style satire, but I don’t think that would feel true to the series. There was always at least an underlying political line in the show. There’s definitely lots of episodes that weren’t. But it was always an aspect. I’m just not very convinced that this will be good. Even with the original creators behind it. But I am hopeful because it’s like, maybe my favorite show ever.

    • poppy_apocalypse [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      After reading your comment, I checked to make sure The Warriors was safe. Sure enough, the Russo brothers are trying to remake it into a tv show for Paramount + :why-angel:

    • necrocop [he/him,any]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      That’s kind of how I feel about it. Just leave it alone. It’s one of the best shows ever and it ended at a decent time. Just let the dead horse lie

  • Phish [he/him, any]
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    3 years ago

    I love King of the Hill and Mike Judge has a lot of great American satire, but I don't have particularly high hopes for this. Aside from just being fatigued with the amount of reboots, revivals, and remakes, I feel like some of his recent work misses the marks he used to hit. Particularly Silicon Valley. Office Space was great because it made fun of stupid companies full of drones wasting their time working for scumbag bureaucrats while there was a real life out there waiting for all of them. Silicon Valley points out some of the stupidity in startup culture, like the delusions of grandeur held by tech CEOs and the constant flow of pointless products coming from the tech sector, but it also props up a Zuckerberg-like character as its protagonist and hints at the idea that venture capitalism isn't inherently bad because there's one or two "good" venture capitalists. By the end of the show's run, it kind of seemed like they were celebrating Silicon Valley culture as a totally zany but necessary and good thing. It just didn't pack the same satirical punch I had come to expect from Mike Judge.

    • Jadzia_Dax [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Judge was less involved with it by the end iirc. It also very much started off at a time when Zuck wasn’t yet publicly viewed as a supervillain. How far left is Judge politically? He seems like DemSoc at best.

      • necrocop [he/him,any]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        That explains why the last couple of seasons were a little lackluster.

        • Jadzia_Dax [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah. To really nail it, the last couple seasons would need to be the main characters becoming increasingly more alienated from their own labor, paralyzed within a machine that has grown around them and intwined with their organs, isolating each of them within their own departments. On paper, they have immense power, but no attempts at change or reform they make ever seem to really work. There’s a lot of potential for dark comedy there, but it’s depressing.

      • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Judge is basically your bog-standard American Southern Conservative Lib

        No real backbone, doesn't think anything is wrong with the system, just that it's run by people who aren't as smart as him

        Other than that, you get the idea that he doesn't actually think about politics all that much.

        Especially since he guested on InfoWars once or twice

      • Phish [he/him, any]
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        3 years ago

        Ah that makes a lot of sense actually. It really didn't feel much like his work by the end of it. I'd have to rewatch to get a feel for the tone in the earlier seasons. DemSoc at best for sure. I remember reading that he's a libertarian but that's not really the impression I get from his work.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    If this revival isn't about Hank slowly becoming alienated from his family and going down the Q rabbit hole then it's trash.

    • FirstToServe [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Struggle session engage? I think it would be funnier if he were the only one in the group to be a 'regular republican' so as to provide tension and opportunities for 'fish out of water' situations where Hank is dragged to Peggy's things. He wants to be respected by his friends but has to deal with liberal parodies loving him for no reason. He can't deal with either.

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I can see that working too. It would fit with Hank's character to actually keep being a never-Trump Republican even as everyone around him starts wearing MAGA hats.

        But it's equally possible they just ignore Trumpism and do episodes where Bobby gets a smartphone or Peggy starts an OnlyFans.

        • FirstToServe [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          I feel pretty strongly that there should be a time skip and that Peggy and Hank are living in an over the top RV that they've never driven out of Texas

          • necrocop [he/him,any]
            hexagon
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            3 years ago

            I like this idea except Hank says in the episode where Kahn gets a pool that he’s always wanted to vacation in Indiana. Which is absolutely hilarious.

    • Jadzia_Dax [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Dale at the least is either absolutely a Q freak by now or alternatively somehow has a conspiracy theory about how Q is a false flag to distract true patriots. That last route is funnier because it allows you to still play around with Dale’s brainworms without him turning into a mass shooter.

      Boomhower probably went to some trump rallies, but got bored of it. Bill continues to be lifeless.

      I think Hank stays the same because he gives zero fucks and is so insulated by his privilege that he can just “not be political”. It’s part of what gives his character the appeal it does.

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Dale will think Q is child's play compared to what he knows. Baby's first conspiracy.

        • WELCOMETHRILLHO [comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          Dale absolutely does not vote, and knows that QAnon is too dumb to be true. At the bare minimum, Dale IS Q.

          • StolenStalin [comrade/them,they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Omfg that would be the funniest shit if he's like "holy shit how are they getting THAT from what I said? They'd guys are crazy. And he's terrified of posting on the account or smth.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      I don't think that would fit Hank's character. He never much cared for high concept political stuff. He just wants to put a putting green in his backyard and grill.

      He has literally devoted his life to grilling.

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I can just see him listening to a lot of talk radio and getting his brain fried by it. The fact that he wasn't engaged for so long but got sucked in by the Murdoch machine would add to the tragedy.

        • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          I could see it happening if Hank gets convinced there's some kind of plot to interfere with his daily life, like something changing truck size or the price of steaks. Or something that's otherwise completely apolitical. There was that one episode where Hank had an internal crisis because Bush Sr had a weak handshake lmao.

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Bush Jr. He's still a lifelong and loyal Republican and would feel personally betrayed they'd put up 'that New York jckass from the TV show'

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      3 years ago

      Do you want it in Like It, Love It, or… sigh Oh My God I’m Insane For Propane?

  • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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    3 years ago

    Between the beavis and butthead remake and now this, what’s the over under on idiocracy 2 in the next 5 years

    • WELCOMETHRILLHO [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Tempted to say that it won't be Idiocracy 2 (probably marketed as something like "Idiocracy Too" because lol dumb people), but there will definitely be something in that vein as a streaming series.

  • MerryChristmas [any]
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    3 years ago

    I have fallen asleep with this show playing in the background nearly every night since I was a teenager. It's like those rain sounds that some people play for me. I really hope they don't fuck it all up.

  • WELCOMETHRILLHO [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    This show (for the most part) has aged very well, but I don't know that a revival could be successful on any of the desired terms. I know people who like this show because they get what it is, but I know many MORE people who think it was that redneck show on FOX twenty years ago. So aside from the people who watched it on FOX AND on [Adult Swim], who is going to be excited for this? Probably not enough people for Hulu or whoever to check off the boxes that it was a "hit".

    MAYBE it would work if they weren't aging up the characters- keep it in present day, but Bobby is still a kid. The only thing worse than a grown-up Bobby is a grown-up Joseph.

    Also, not having Brittany Murphy and Tom Petty is going to be sad.

    • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      imo the show effectively died with Brittany Murphy. It wasn't even that the show had no hope without the Lou-Anne character, but that's always what I look back on as the marker of things going bad.

  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    As many have said already, the current political climate just won't work for King of the Hill. Also though, how do you think they'll handle Birttany Murphy being dead? Have Luanne die in universe during the gap or put her on a bus?