Hey, I am just naive. Is the political vision of this community to make europe burn or to show europe is burning?

  • Crowtee_Robot [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    As with most flag burning, the intent is to express extreme dissatisfaction, so any burning flag emoji essentially says, "fuck this country/political/economic entity and the evils it has wrought".

    • Sironimo [none/use name]
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      9 months ago

      Thats how i understood it ofc. But I do not agree with the axiom "Internet is ment to express dissatisfaction". Would'nt great socialists of the past condemned this line of thinking and instead use it as a tool?

  • Wheaties [she/her]
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    10 months ago

    to make europe burn or to show europe is burning?

    Yes

    • Wheaties [she/her]
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      10 months ago

      but seriously, if you want to post about shitty things happening in europe, I'd welcome it. Shitty things happening in the US gets kinda over-represented.

  • Sironimo [none/use name]
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    10 months ago

    I know its shit and all, but I feel like being over the limit of cynism, soo what do we do about it? I like memes, too. But do they change anything substantially? Maybe Unpopular opinion, but i like the IDEA of europe.

    • abc [he/him, comrade/them]
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      10 months ago

      what is even a charitable take on the 'idea' of Europe or the EU though...I mean beyond the whole freedom of movement between member states..

    • replaceable [he/him]M
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      10 months ago

      I also like the freedom of movement in EU, but thats not the only thing it does, its also a neoliberal organization created in opposition to communism, if we ever want socialism in europe EU must be destroyed

      • Sironimo [none/use name]
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        10 months ago

        Destroy EU and then? I like the idea of socialism also, but it does not solve the problem of hierarchy. States naturally develop a political class. So all we need is a new just elite party?

        • replaceable [he/him]M
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          10 months ago

          Socialism does not completely solve the problem of hierachies, but it is a force counteracting hierachies as socialism would empower the masses, current system empowers the rich minority and thus reinforces the hierachies

          • Sironimo [none/use name]
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            9 months ago

            Maybe some of you are familiar with Slavoj Zizek, I totally agree with him that the crucial question is: What comes after the revolution? He describes this often with the example of the movie "V like Vendetta". The movie ends with people rushing the parliament and so on. But we never know what happens next, he then asks for "V like Vendetta II".

    • GaveUp [she/her]
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      10 months ago

      But do they change anything substantially?

      I mean, neither does your post. It's all just entertainment and time wasting until we die, my friend