I know reddit is low hanging fruit, but I just can't with these dweebs.
Something has changed. Using an adblocker goes against the YouTube ToC, so Google has started to detect them. You need to disable Adblock for YouTube, and it should go back to normal.
fuck google for doing this.
Well, Google has every right to do so. It has to pay the content creators for their work, so people need to pay either (as you and I do) through Premium or by having advertisements. When people use an ad-blocker to watch YouTube, they are freeriding on the creators' work, which is disrespectful to say the least.
why yes, I talk about people who use ad blocker to not have their consciousness invaded by advertisements using "welfare queen" language. how did you know?
They don't pay creators on YouTube as much as they used to.
I'm not surprised. People are blocking ads all over the place.
YouTube has recently been cracking down on ad-blockers, because they deprive content creators of their rightful fees. Recent changes have caused ad-blockers to misbehave.
Or just, you know, pay for the content? It's called YouTube Premium. People don't complain about Netflix or Amazon Prime charging money.
Anyway, it's your decision what you choose to do. I choose to pay.
there are tech workers out there who unironically believe that viewing ads is a moral imperative. I want to say "nothing human is alien to me" but these fuckers are just unbelievable
These people are so funny, and have been around forever. They spend time customizing their filters to only block certain kinds of ads, or not blocking on sites they like. I can't imagine.
All so they can "support the site" by being subjected to ads for hard lemonade.
That's what gets me! If you engage with the concrete activity they put so much weight on - observing some banners for hard lemonade or whatever interspersed with the content you're reading - it's just so absurd in a way that is hard to capture. A company is paying to subtly massage my neurons so I possibly have a 5% higher chance of buying hard lemonade next time I pick up a 6-pack for a friend's gathering. This is the value I bring to the table, shaping a bit of my soul to corporate ends.
The wildest thing about this is that these (usually affluent) people could quite literally throw $10 at the site, keep their adblock on, and then probably have donated more directly than the ad-platform EVER would have generated off of them.
Patreon is such a better model for Internet content than ads that it's unbelievable that it took so long to come about. I guess the problem is that it cuts corpos out of the loop.
Well, it cuts some corpos out of the loop. Patreon corpos still get their slice.
brb making adtech to serve ads for cyanide capsules and microtargeting it at people with ad blockers but who have whitelisted the site
/j
the value of a commodity is the socially necessary labor time required to produce it, but the price of a commodity is whatever the capitalists can get away with charging it. As the SNLT for so many digital commodities approaches zero, the only way to make money off of it is to employ a parasitic rent-seeking software-as-a-service or ad-blitzkrieg model. The alternative to this model built on artificial scarcity and planned obsolesence and a never ending arms race between different kinds of software developers is just nationalizing the tech companies and making data free if it doesn't cost anything to (re)produce. but we can't have that.
Baleted
Edit: I’m leaving this picture here for now to illustrate how funny takes you agree with can be harmful, regardless of your intentions. And how when others call you out on unconscious bigotry you should address it.
Edit again: No one asked for me to remove the picture. Just thought it was the right thing to do.
Sorry. Do you think I should delete it? I don’t wanna make others uncomfortable.
to be honest most people on the internet are not this respectful, and it doesn’t really insult me at all personally, so I’m ok leaving it up until someone else complains… but again I’m not really affected by it so I don’t know if my opinion counts here
why are you complaining so much? the Doritos™ Dew™ verification can is sugar-free and ethically sourced, and it actually tastes pretty good!
When people use an ad-blocker to watch YouTube, they are freeriding on the creators' work, which is disrespectful to say the least.
People don't complain about Netflix or Amazon Prime charging money.
The users are just doing what the FBI wants them to do (install adblockers):
https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/22/fbi-ad-blocker/
Chromies are only gonna get more deranged in the next couple years.
Or just, you know, pay for the content? It's called YouTube Premium. People don't complain about Netflix or Amazon Prime charging money.
Because unlike Netflix or Amazon its user generated content. Also, normal people dont pay for those either.
Most people I know pay for Netflix so idk what you’re saying (I agree in general of course)
Even better one of those people having issues were paying for it and still got screwed
What's that quote from a book, about how if the rich figured out how to bottle all the air in the atmosphere, people like this would scold and condescending you for suggesting it shouldn't cost money to breathe? And if you suggested banding together and smashing the air tanks, they would haul you in to the police in the hopes of receiving some air for their loyalty?
Sorry I don't want my 6yo child seeing fucking ads for alcohol, P2W mobile games, and sex pills
It's bad enough he's so susceptible to click-bait "minecraft parkour" type bullshit videos...
I had turned the ad blocker off for a bit when YT first started blocking them and saw a fucking Goblin Slayer mobile game ad.
I installed Playlet and got rid of YouTube on my Roku-based TV(which is also a cesspool of ads) after my kid's YouTube junk food stuff started serving up ads for Disaronno. Like he was watching KooKoo Kangaroo or one of those magnetic metal ball ASMR videos.
I'd have a pihole running too but we have AT&T fiber and they don't let you change some settings needed for a pihole.
I honestly wouldn't even know how to raise a kid in this day and age. So much advertising vying for their attention, trying to whittle away at their already tiny attention span. It must be hard.
It fucking sucks for a lot of reasons. The oldest is just starting to learn that things cost money and he can't just get stuff because he wants it. His grandparents spoiled him for the first couple of years and I told them I didn't want them to buy him a ton of toys and stuff, but they did. I explained to my wife that the reason was partially because my own grandma spoiled us and then got shitty when she would come over and we'd ask for gifts. It's unhealthy conditioning for a developing mind. Thankfully the inlaws now mostly buy him and our youngest utilitarian stuff like clothes.
Oldest does seem to know at least to some extent that right now we are working with a single income and a teacher's salary at that. Keep him fed and let him play Switch and he's mostly good.
But I even had a plan early on that I didn't want him exposed to commercials and ads to the extent that I could help but life got busy and that fell apart and next thing I know, he's watching a bunch of consumerist product influencer shit on YT. We don't have regular TV so like those commercials aren't an issue but Prime and Hulu still stuffs ads at the beginning of movies and Twitch injects ads into their streams. It's awful. Like way worse than when I was a kid. They took cigarette ads away from magazines(justifiable) because they figured out they influenced children but unfettered consumerism ads for dumb shit made out of plastic is ok?
Sorry for the rant. It's just something that sets me off.
Hey, no worries, rant away. It does sound very frustrating, the grandparents part in particular. It's hard to convince people who are just used to ads and consumerism all the time that it isn't healthy or good, and it's borderline impossible to get them to stop pushing those habits onto the people around them, it feels like an addiction sometimes.
I had no idea Prime and Hulu have ads as well though, isn't the whole point of a streaming service to avoid that sort of thing? Might be a good idea to try and find a way to install an adblocker on all your kid's devices, if you're able to. Might help a lot with you peace of mind.
The main trick with an adblocker is that it would have to be either on our tv or between the tv and our router since we have one tv and that's the central entertainment source. I tried setting up a pihole with my old RP2+ only to find out that I need port forwarding(I think) turned on and our provider has their routers locked down in some ways and that's one of them.
I did install Playlet, and get rid of Youetube. Playlet is a Invidious front end for Roku so that is helpful. But we also have Google Dislays that he uses and those are locked out so nothing I can do. I wanna get rid of all the Google stuff tbh.
But yeah, Hulu's cheapest package has ads, and Prime has always had it but like it's ads for the rest of their shit, which is also plastered all over their UI anyway. Like we get it Amazon, you guys have 8-10 shows that I absolutely need to watch...
And I'm trying not to shield my kid completely but also don't really want him to realize how shit the world is so soon. He's gone from not understanding the effects of ads to going "Ugh, ads..." now and he's calling stuff click-bait so maybe a parenting win in a consumerist hellscape?
I have a 6 TB hard drive plugged into my computer that acts as our media server and am slowly adding stuff to it so hopefully we can get rid of streaming services and cut back a bit more on ads.
Sounds like you're doing everything you can, at least your oldest is getting old enough to really recognise when they're being advertised to. I think I know what you mean about wanting to not completely shield your kid. They're going to find out eventually about this stuff and it's probably better if you're explaining it to them rather than them going to a friend's house and seeing a bunch of awful white supremacist ads while watching videos or something. I would be terrified of what the other kids might be exposed to and how they would influence my kid if I was a parent, especially as they get older and start being more active online. I'm sure that things will work out for you though, you clearly love your kids a lot and are trying your best to parent them properly, which is far more than some people get.
Or just, you know, pay for the content? It's called findom. People don't complain about other kinks.
See, that’s where the messed up part is. If I’m reading this correctly, it looks like Chrome (being a Google product) is programmed to start hoovering up CPU and RAM if it detects a YouTube ad blocker. Firefox wouldn’t do that because it’s not a Google product.
Which to me isn’t just not cool, it’s moving Chrome into the realm of malware: use our product as we intend or your computer will become borderline non-functional.
Oh, so when I had Chrome it wasn't just chrome eating up RAM because it was poorly designed bloatware, it was maliciously designed bloatware. That's pretty fucked up.
Apparently it’s actually a bug with specifically Adblock plus on chrome not so much google. Ublock origin users apparently haven’t had any issues w yt on chrome. At least that’s what I’ve read. Google is still a trash company regardless
I'm on chrome/ublock and no problems with yt (famous last words?)
I have a set up like this for work and ice also has no issues
IMO one of the reasons they're rolling this out to random people and not everybody all at once isn't just to manage the backlash, it's to make it harder to diagnose exactly what's happening. So maybe.
to start hoovering up CPU and RAM if it detects a YouTube ad blocker.
In my experience it hoovered the CPU and RAM since forever that's why I switched to Firefox
It seems there are two broad sects of pro-advertising assholes on the internet:
There are the people who believe watching ads is a necessary evil for art to exist at all, and their willingness to toil in the marketing mines is some sort of moral virtue they have over the ad blocking "freeloaders".
And there are the tech perverts who actually get excited about the latest fucking spyware hidden throughout their OS, browser, and apps because they take some sort of sick enjoyment in being subjected to increasingly personalized ads as if the only problem with marketing brainwashing is that it just isn't quite relevant enough to their interests yet.
The first group is annoying, but the second is genuinely terrifying.
Thank you hexbear for existing and you guys being here. I always thought that people simping for corpos was weird. Let me take care of this chud
People don't complain about Netflix or Amazon Prime charging money
Yes I do
I posted it earlier, so I'll post it here as well
Using uBlock origin works as long as you add the below lines:
! 2022-07-23 https://mobile.twitter.com
mobile.twitter.com##.r-11nfnuw.r-16wqof.r-1dqxon3.r-16y2uox.r-kemksi.css-1dbjc4n
youtube.com##+js(set, yt.config_.openPopupConfig.supportedPopups.adBlockMessageViewModel, false)
youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.adBlocksFound, 0)
youtube.com##+js(set, ytplayer.config.args.raw_player_response.adPlacements, [])
youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.hasAllowedInstreamAd, true)
To add these, simply go to uBlock > Dashboard > My Filters, you can just wholesale copy/paste into there
After, go to the Filter Lists tab, and press Apply Changes, then Update Now (or maybe those need to be reversed, it's been a while)
If you had a youtube tab open, close browser and re open
Haven't needed to do anything since throwing that script on back in 2023 when YouTube forced the issue
