• Downanotherday [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Google search this and you will not find a single american/uk/canada source.

    They are just going to pretend like its not a thing that happened. 100%.

    local news is currently trying to sell Canadians on the idea of arming Ukraine nazis.

    :data-laughing:

    Edit: I accidentally capitalized canada.

    :kkkanada:

    • Ecoleo [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      What is happening? Like I've seen some things here that Germany isn't playing ball or something, but what's the full story? Anyone got a good article?

      • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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        3 years ago

        US and UK want war. EU states don't.

        France and Germany have advocated for de-escalation and apparently somewhat successfully negotiated with Russia and Ukraine, and the US aren't happy because they weren't included in the negotiations.

        • Does_KJU_Have_Drip [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Ukraine/EU: I consent (to not starting WW3)

          Russia: I consent (to not starting WW3)

          Perfidious Anglos: Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?

      • vccx [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Germany want Russian gas, NATO too far to respond anyway, if Russia invades the war will be over by the time NATO forces arrive.

        Any nearby NATO affiliates are hodgepodge, uncoordinated, or simply don't have the resources to cross through or over the countries (including some NATO member states) around the Ukraine that are refusing to participate.

        Alexander Mercouris' has done a pretty good job covering it on YouTube, though his videos are very long.

        • Ecoleo [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Watching one now, clearing a lot up, thanks!

        • Manypink [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          The whole point is to invade Russia, occupy it, regime change in Moscow, and break up the Russian Federation into small states that will be easily dominated by Western banks. Then China can be surrounded from the north and more pressure applied until they agree to be subservient to the banks as well. Then there's only Iran and a few stragglers, and then the real work of building a global governance can begin.

          • Vncredleader
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            3 years ago

            I really doubt they would want to Balkanize Russia further. Half those states will go for some form of soviet revival, the other half will be far right either Islamist or white-nationalist. Plus they wouldn't want a border with China to the north. Too big, not good terrain, and would require a serious a competent presence all throughout that border region.

            • Manypink [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Breaking Russia up is the only way to make sure they'll never be a threat again. It's what Hitler wanted to do. These successor state governments will be appointed by the Davos aristocracy and will run their countries into the ground the way Yeltsin did in the 90s. Neoliberals will make a handsome profit doing it.

              Too big, not good terrain, and would require a serious a competent presence all throughout that border region.

              The US can just mint new dollars to pay for it all. It's not like it's real money.

              • Vncredleader
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                3 years ago

                Except they would need to keep those states afloat if they wanted a buffer and means of invading China. You cannot both destabilize and throw caution to the wind, in the same move as building a front-line for what would be a world war. Also NATO wants threats, they existentially need them. This is how HOI4 TNO works, not the real world.

            • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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              3 years ago

              Half those states will go for some form of soviet revival

              America would just bomb them into stone age.

              • Vncredleader
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                3 years ago

                Which is costly and doesn't work against insurgents.

    • thisismyrealname [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      lmfao CNN only says they "agree to continue ceasefire talks" which kinda implies that they haven't agreed on doing a ceasefire yet

  • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
    cake
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    3 years ago

    feel like i'm watching the usa's ability to bend other countries to its will diminish slowly in real time

    • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I want to be hopeful, but I know Europeans have a way of disappointing when it comes to not capitulating to Uncle Sam (like on the Iran Deal).

      • anoncpc [comrade/them]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        Don’t think they will be that stupid to bend this time. A war on European soil would catastrophic for them, and import 3x of the price for oil, the only winner is the US and it dog UK

        • steve5487 [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          No this would badly hit the UK but the UK government is too corrupt to care. And increased ties to US financial institutions would benefit the people in the UK that matter

      • Vncredleader
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        3 years ago

        keep in mind as this is happening a coup in Burkina Faso is going down. They are always coming out on top somewhere

      • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
        cake
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        3 years ago

        lol i said that just to head off the inevitable "the usa still has a lot of power" comments. But yea it does seem like i'm seeing increasingly more and more countries turning their shoulders in a way i never saw when i was a teenager

        • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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          3 years ago

          You're right, it's rapidly becoming strength instead of power, soon all we'll have is the big nuke stick to wave around

      • spectre [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I wouldn't say we've hit full "Suez Crisis" quite yet, but it's being teed up nicely. The only way to avoid it would be for the US just to go home and stop with the aggression, but nope.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      We'd already exhausted our credibility via Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama was supposed to reestablish it internationally, but what little he did manage (Iran deal, tax haven crack downs, TPP) either failed or got immediately rolled back in the subsequent administration.

      Tack on COVID, America's shit handling of climate change, and the next looming global economic downturn, and the US is running out of chits to cash in. Foreign leaders abroad are asking the same question Americans at home are being forced to answer. What the fuck has the US Government done for me, lately?

  • Wheaties [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    :crab-party::crab-party::crab-party::crab-party::crab-party::crab-party:

    AMERICA'S INTERNATIONAL CREDIBILITY IS GONE

    :crab-party::crab-party::crab-party::crab-party::crab-party::crab-party:

  • comi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Merely 1d understanding: oh europe don’t want any trouble

    4d underwater blackjack understanding: putin made burkina faso coup via russian pmc for France to listen, because macron is degaulle in disguise:pepe-silvia:

      • ProfessorAdonisCnut [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Inshallah China pull that F35 out of the ocean and paints a Russian flag on it to do this as a double-false flag :xicko:

      • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
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        3 years ago

        Plan B was to sail an Arleigh Burke with a giant cutout of the Kuznetsov taped on it into Crime and crash the nearest merchant ship.

    • Does_KJU_Have_Drip [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      i bet we do a first strike on Russia, then blame it on Russia doing a false flag on themselves, and use their manufacturing a casus belli as our own casus belli.

    • yellowparenti5 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      already happened
      russia pov: https://www.rt.com/russia/546650-ukraine-false-flag-details/
      state department pov: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59998988

    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Double false flag. Ukraine does something to call it a Russian false flag.

      Or would that be called a "false false flag"? "False flag false flag"?

  • Parzivus [any]
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    3 years ago

    This is one of my favorite meme formats

  • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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    3 years ago

    Incidentally those are both of the countries who tried to invade Russia on the past and got their shit kicked in hard for trying

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I don't understand. What is the explosive payload of "diplomacy"?????

  • Metalorg [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    America was demanding Europe to endure a fuel crisis to make sure Russia doesn't invade Ukraine, which it wasn't.

  • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    So many flags pasted on and overlapping that I can't understand what the lines under them are supposed to be.