Firing squad is messy, fentanyl I’m guessing being a controlled substance/opioid makes it a no go. I remember reading a few years back that the EU was ceasing the export of the chemical traditionally used in lethal injections in the U.S. so my guess is they’re experimenting with a replacement they can source easily.
I think the point OP is making is that the state doesn’t appear to be interested in quick and affordable executions. If it were then it would seek to amend or change laws/regulations in order to do so. But instead the state pursues these experimental executions that are slower and crueler.
It is also, ironically, because of a failure in the market.
A lot of drug manufacturers are reluctant to have "used by the Statesville Department of Corrections to execute people" on the Wikipedia page for the drug they are trying to to sell. Having your drug used to put people to death makes it harder to sell to people that want to stay alive. So even though there is an open market for these chemicals, it is harder and harder to convince manufacturers to supply that market. Even where it's not explicitly prohibited like companies operating out of the European Union.
Also, the whole killing people thing kind of antithetical to most medical codes of ethics. Even outside of bad publicity, there are moral considerations, most doctors do not want to put their name to an execution method, it kind of goes against the whole "do no harm" thing. This is why they normally have some random first-year nursing student set the IV. And also why so many executions have failed in spectacular fashion because they couldn't find a vein, or the IV pops out or whatever.
so my guess is they’re experimenting with a replacement they can source easily.
This is precisely it. The reason lethal injection is so commonly fucked up in the US is because there is no standardized cocktail of drugs used. It varies literally prison by prison, and doesn't even need a physician's approval. I can't remember where I read it, but I recall reading about one state where the drugs chosen were chosen by the prison warden solely by vibes
Never gonna get a physicians approval since physicians take an oath not to kill people. That problem comes up a lot, as soon as the people giving you the drugs find out you’re using it for lethal injection they go “What the fuck what’s wrong with you no you can’t have more”
Not only can they not easily source the chemicals, they can't get doctors and nurses to administer the shots, so lethal injections tend to be administered by cops who don't know what they're doing which is why the previous attempt to kill this inmate failed.
Firing squad ruins the veil of civility, and it also makes the pigs get PTSD from THINKING they killed a man. So instead we have to play Mengele to give it some kind of civil and scientific legitimacy
Firing squad is messy, fentanyl I’m guessing being a controlled substance/opioid makes it a no go. I remember reading a few years back that the EU was ceasing the export of the chemical traditionally used in lethal injections in the U.S. so my guess is they’re experimenting with a replacement they can source easily.
I think the point OP is making is that the state doesn’t appear to be interested in quick and affordable executions. If it were then it would seek to amend or change laws/regulations in order to do so. But instead the state pursues these experimental executions that are slower and crueler.
It is also, ironically, because of a failure in the market.
A lot of drug manufacturers are reluctant to have "used by the Statesville Department of Corrections to execute people" on the Wikipedia page for the drug they are trying to to sell. Having your drug used to put people to death makes it harder to sell to people that want to stay alive. So even though there is an open market for these chemicals, it is harder and harder to convince manufacturers to supply that market. Even where it's not explicitly prohibited like companies operating out of the European Union.
Also, the whole killing people thing kind of antithetical to most medical codes of ethics. Even outside of bad publicity, there are moral considerations, most doctors do not want to put their name to an execution method, it kind of goes against the whole "do no harm" thing. This is why they normally have some random first-year nursing student set the IV. And also why so many executions have failed in spectacular fashion because they couldn't find a vein, or the IV pops out or whatever.
This is precisely it. The reason lethal injection is so commonly fucked up in the US is because there is no standardized cocktail of drugs used. It varies literally prison by prison, and doesn't even need a physician's approval. I can't remember where I read it, but I recall reading about one state where the drugs chosen were chosen by the prison warden solely by vibes
Never gonna get a physicians approval since physicians take an oath not to kill people. That problem comes up a lot, as soon as the people giving you the drugs find out you’re using it for lethal injection they go “What the fuck what’s wrong with you no you can’t have more”
Not only can they not easily source the chemicals, they can't get doctors and nurses to administer the shots, so lethal injections tend to be administered by cops who don't know what they're doing which is why the previous attempt to kill this inmate failed.
Critical support to our doctors and nurses, who realize that "do no harm" includes participating in state sanctioned murder.
can confirm as a burgerian that this is indeed what is happening
Firing squad ruins the veil of civility, and it also makes the pigs get PTSD from THINKING they killed a man. So instead we have to play Mengele to give it some kind of civil and scientific legitimacy