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    • Des [she/her, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      been using weekly for about 3 years now. what's your daily dosage? have you been able to secure a reliable stockpile with the big shortage?

      • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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        3 years ago

        Ah shit forgot to reply.

        About 6gpd here, for a number of years. No, havent found anyone reliabe, but I just learned about the shortage like...2 days ago. Usually get from Liftmode, but since they're out, I tried Nootropics Source. That'll be here Thursday.

        • Des [she/her, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          no prob! ok i'm glad you got an order in. have you thought about tapering? or tried agmantine to reduce tolerance? and i think the shortage is temporary i'm not sure how true it is but caused by a temporary shutdown from covid in the main chinese production facility?

          • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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            3 years ago

            Haven't heard anything about it, but i haven't really paid much attention. So long as I can keep myself from feeling like having a heart attack, I'm happy. And just ordered a scale to start my taper! Already on agmatine and a few other supplements to help with the upcoming taper. Agmatine is a weird one for me cause a lot of people LOVE it, but in doses at 500mg or above, it just makes my heart race.

            • Des [she/her, they/them]
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              3 years ago

              i take agamatine right before bed, about 1.2 g. for some reason it does the opposite for me and helps me sleep, and basically cancels out the rebound anxiety insomnia i get for the couple days after phenibut. it's weird how stuff works differently for different people.
              were you using the phenibut originally to self treat anxiety? i'm fucking weird because i originally used it as a stimulant, even if i do have social anxiety.

              • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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                3 years ago

                Yep, anxiety treatment when I didn't have access to health care. It's grown into something I really need to kick - I've quit Tianeptine cold turkey before which was fucking hell (one part opiate, one part weird fucky SSRI), but phenibut sucks too so tapering is the way to go.

              • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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                3 years ago

                And yeah, agmatine messes with your BP levels. I've tried taking a gram before, just didn't agree with my body for whatever reason. I take 300mg in the morning with some other stacks for mental benefits I take to help counter what the phenibut has done to my memory and stuff, but that's about it.

                • Des [she/her, they/them]
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                  3 years ago

                  tia spooked me out, esp reading reports after ordering a tub (never opened it, it's in my "break glass if sucidal depression"). i'm guessing it was a fun combination of intense opioid withdrawls and weird brainzappy SSRI shit rolled into one? and you know i thought phenibut was good for clearing out brain fog but i think with my daily kratom i've noticed in the last year it's actually fucking up my memory

                  • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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                    3 years ago

                    I didn't get the brain zaps, but it was about a month of insomnia and anxiety on top of opiate WDs. So, yeah, totally fucking great. Luckily I was only on the stuff for 6-8 months, but my usage got so intense I'd need to wake up ever 3 hours at night to shovel tia down my throat. At least with Phenibut I can sleep through most of the night.

                    • Des [she/her, they/them]
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                      3 years ago

                      ugggh. the ultra-short duration was definitely a turn off. i've always hated stuff with short half-life. i got hooked on loperamide (yes, it's possible!) to fight heroin/morphine w/ds because it has a 24 hr duration... it sucked as an opioid but long half life make such easier tapers!

                      • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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                        3 years ago

                        I had half a mind to try an immodium high, but never took enough. Although I do take like 6 at a time some days since the phenibut use has wrecked my gut.

                        • Des [she/her, they/them]
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                          3 years ago

                          it doesn't seem to cross bbb for everyone. i took 48 tablets first time when in w/d and it killed the w/d and gave a buzz. feels like a sleepier methadone buzz, with a touch of morphine. problem is it's a pretty strong calcium ion channel blocker too so it can slow your heart rate down dangerously.

                            • Des [she/her, they/them]
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                              3 years ago

                              yeah. ironically the ca+ blocking and the strong opioid effect combined makes a great pain reducer lol.

                              • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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                                3 years ago

                                Yeah, I heard that immodium actually is close to morphine molecularly, just doesnt cross the BBB so you get the opiate constipation effect without the high.

                                Anyways, if you ever wanna talk drugs, inbox is always open! I'm starting my phenibut taper proper over the weekend, scale is coming in the mail, so I'm sure we'll have a lot to talk about soon.