Kinda silly since Maoism is considered to be mlism modified for Chinas conditions, seems an easy leap to understand jucheism as the same thing for the dprk’s pretty unique set of material conditions.
Like cornerstone of Marxism is understanding different material conditions require different answers. Being dogmatically tied to a tendency or a tendancy’s thought in a given era seems contradictory to me. Hell even following maos example can only get you so far bc no one is really in mid 20th century China anymore
Kinda silly since Maoism is considered to be mlism modified for Chinas conditions
You're thinking of Marxism-Leninism-Mao Zedong Though (the ideology of the CPC), where as Maoists follow Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, which was created by the Community Party of Peru - Shining Path. So the silliness makes more sense when you consider that these people are followers of the ideology of a guerilla army that was so brutal and dogmatic it effectively destroyed the left in Peru.
Do you think many internet twitter maoists meaningfully make a distinction? I just assumed most are thinking of the cpc since it’s successful and all. Though I didn’t spend any time looking at any of the accounts in this goofy internet drama
From what I understand, a lot of Maoists have a very negative few of the CPC, since they view the modern party as revisionist at best and consider Deng's reforms as a return to capitalism, so yes they do very much make the distinction between ML-MZT and MLM. That isn't to say that all Maoist think like that though, and I think a lot of the dogmatism seen from Maoists on twitter comes from:
Usually they will just deny the existence/validity of ML-MZT as a concept and call it "Dengism" instead, basically identical to Trots and "Stalinism" vs Marxism-Leninism, and instead claim MZT and MLM as basically the same/one leading directly into the other.
Ahhhh this is why I've never gotten along well with Maoists despite being an ML who likes MZT, didn't realize that they were following a tendency synthesized by baby boilers
Kinda silly since Maoism is considered to be mlism modified for Chinas conditions, seems an easy leap to understand jucheism as the same thing for the dprk’s pretty unique set of material conditions.
Like cornerstone of Marxism is understanding different material conditions require different answers. Being dogmatically tied to a tendency or a tendancy’s thought in a given era seems contradictory to me. Hell even following maos example can only get you so far bc no one is really in mid 20th century China anymore
You're thinking of Marxism-Leninism-Mao Zedong Though (the ideology of the CPC), where as Maoists follow Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, which was created by the Community Party of Peru - Shining Path. So the silliness makes more sense when you consider that these people are followers of the ideology of a guerilla army that was so brutal and dogmatic it effectively destroyed the left in Peru.
Do you think many internet twitter maoists meaningfully make a distinction? I just assumed most are thinking of the cpc since it’s successful and all. Though I didn’t spend any time looking at any of the accounts in this goofy internet drama
From what I understand, a lot of Maoists have a very negative few of the CPC, since they view the modern party as revisionist at best and consider Deng's reforms as a return to capitalism, so yes they do very much make the distinction between ML-MZT and MLM. That isn't to say that all Maoist think like that though, and I think a lot of the dogmatism seen from Maoists on twitter comes from:
Usually they will just deny the existence/validity of ML-MZT as a concept and call it "Dengism" instead, basically identical to Trots and "Stalinism" vs Marxism-Leninism, and instead claim MZT and MLM as basically the same/one leading directly into the other.
Fun take: When someone in the imperial core does this, I believe it's based in racism.
Ahhhh this is why I've never gotten along well with Maoists despite being an ML who likes MZT, didn't realize that they were following a tendency synthesized by baby boilers
i just assumed maoist was the word for mzt lol. wonder how many people self described as maoist i thought were based actually were cringe :ohnoes:
I've done it before so maybe it's a common misconception lmao
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