I get the argument but my only experiences with genzedong are seeing their users glibly claim left anarchism isn't real in other subs then retreat back to genzedong and get massively upvoted for retelling their tales of dunking on people telling them left anarchism exists. so i'm pretty sure whoever posted this to genzedong knew their audience and didn't need to elucidate on their commonly shared belief
The political spectrum is indeed bullshit but the whole compass isn't greyed out as made up internet stuff, the choices give away the intent of the author. Clumsily crossing out the word authoritarian also does not delete the cultural context, we all know what the author thinks "really wanting it" means.
Yeah, libertarian anti authoritarianism is about private vs state control, while anarchist authoritarianism is about when it's acceptable to be violent and how to hold revolutionaries accountable and things like that. They're just incongruous and representing them as a single axis is incoherent.
That said, it's one of the main differences between anarchists and MLs and I think it's inappropriate to erase that.
tbh, my own experience of lurking a lot is that anarchists seem to prefer centrist libs to tankies. Or at least a lot of people who call themselves anarchists.
this is a continuation of tweens on genzedong laughing about anarchists ackshully all being right wing
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cmon you can't just drop an hour youtube video for your explanation, i absolutely will not watch that
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I get the argument but my only experiences with genzedong are seeing their users glibly claim left anarchism isn't real in other subs then retreat back to genzedong and get massively upvoted for retelling their tales of dunking on people telling them left anarchism exists. so i'm pretty sure whoever posted this to genzedong knew their audience and didn't need to elucidate on their commonly shared belief
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hey, it's good that they do that thing, but they're definitely not engaged in any kind of left unity project
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No doubt they do that too but the instances I'm referring to involved denying the existence of left anarchism exists
The political spectrum is indeed bullshit but the whole compass isn't greyed out as made up internet stuff, the choices give away the intent of the author. Clumsily crossing out the word authoritarian also does not delete the cultural context, we all know what the author thinks "really wanting it" means.
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your interpretation is valid, but I think the reddit op intended a much more sectarian interpretation
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Yeah, but anarchists have a whole discourse about the ethical deployment of violence and they call that discourse anti authoritarianism.
This is pretty clearly anti anarchist
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Yeah, libertarian anti authoritarianism is about private vs state control, while anarchist authoritarianism is about when it's acceptable to be violent and how to hold revolutionaries accountable and things like that. They're just incongruous and representing them as a single axis is incoherent.
That said, it's one of the main differences between anarchists and MLs and I think it's inappropriate to erase that.
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I certainly don't think you're doing sectarianism, I don't think you made the meme. I'm criticizing the meme and the source of the meme, genzedong.
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tbh, my own experience of lurking a lot is that anarchists seem to prefer centrist libs to tankies. Or at least a lot of people who call themselves anarchists.