The “best” part about the “Hitler hypnotized us” narrative promoted by the krauts in their bloviating, soporific lectures is how it presents a completely counterfactual history devoid of the violent opposition to and clashes with fascists that characterized the Weimar Republic, all in order to pretend grandpappy didn’t deserve to be blown to a million pieces because everyone supported the Nazis and nobody knew right from wrong and morality wasn’t invented until 1945. Once upon a time I thought maybe there was some element of sincerity in German repentance culture, but no - it’s all self-serving, self-absorbed, self-flattering, self-interested, self- this and that; self-centered hagiographic self-praise that treats their unspeakable crimes as elite status cards to trot out.
These fucking krauts just can’t shut the fuck up about how they have some specialized knowledge of fascism because they’re krauts. Were you there? Were you around during the Nazi era? No? Then I fail to see how you know anything more or have any more expertise on the matter than Joe Pissmonger from Montana. Maybe if you picked up a fucking book sometime instead of insisting that being a kraut gives you special privilege to speak with no prior investigation.
But apparently Teutonic blood gives you divine insight into how fascism works. Looks like they haven’t moved past their Nazi genetic woo after all.
“I’m a German and I’m here to teach you how to avoid fascism by supporting the status quo” how about you deal with your own rapidly Nazifying shithole American province before lecturing others.
Be grateful the very idea of “Germany” wasn’t razed to the ground and scattered to the wind after your dear leader escorted himself off the premises.
Can you expand on the efficiency myth? I thought germany had a lot of industry, thats why they industrialized even genocide. Am i blabbering shit?
I swear there is a Chomsky segment about America being fixated on Nazi efficiency but I cannot find it. The point is that the Nazis were deeply inefficient, their industry was disorganized and corporatized so extremely that they couldn't get their shit together. Tanks needed parts made by one factory only and couldn't be repaired with the same piece from another, shit like that.
Part of the fixation on this industrialized genocide is that that is how the Holocaust capital H was portrayed by the Nazis in western Europe. There is a reason we call what happened in the east the Holocaust by Bullets, at least specifically in the occupied USSR. The exterminations in the east, and frankly most of them in the entire war, were hasty, brutal, inefficient, and not uniform. We have this need to almost romanticize the Holocaust, make not only the exterminations the Nazis did, but even specifically the killing of Jews in camps into this one specific image. It becomes pageantry.
Germany was industrial and loved pushing that, but importantly even the Autobahn was a failure, and the Nazis never used trucks as their primary means of logistics in WW2, it was always horses, but they made sure that in propaganda people just saw cars moving artillery
https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/horses-the-mechanized-myth-of-the-eastern-front/
Numbers range from 75% to 80% of the German forces relying on horses. And they didn't even come close to the efficiency the Soviets had with them. America actually had some spats with the Brits over beasts of burden. WW2 at Sea covers an example with a British admiral being pissed that for Operation Husky invading Sicily the American commander he is to carry units for is bringing mules. They fight over it and eventually the American wins. Low and behold by the time the sun is coming down on the first day incredible progress is halting because trucks are breaking down on the rocky inclines from the beaches, the one unit to make it over though, the one that was able to switch to using mules when their trucks stalled. The admiral later admitted he was an idiot
https://books.google.com/books?id=94NvCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT220&lpg=PT220&dq=truscott+connolly++scilly+mules&source=bl&ots=NjFxlLtWH3&sig=ACfU3U0Qx4N0w5YVe20KRtm_LBIQt4pglQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjb5Med9YqEAxU8EFkFHYPADxQQ6AF6BAgIEAM#v=onepage&q=truscott%20connolly%20%20scilly%20mules&f=false
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Nah he was the brit. Connolly. Truscott was the Yankee. Because of course a Brit would be obsessed with his fancy ship more than winning a war
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amerikkkanangloOh here's a fun one, pedal reflectors on bicycles got patented by some chauffeur for the SS dipshit and patented it, then they were required by law and the patend payments got kick backed to the SS by the chauffeur dipshit
Like that's the kind of efficiency the nazis were good at. They were in power anyways but instead of doing like, a normal tax, it had to be this convoluted corruption scheme
IIRC Hitler also had a little postage stamp kickback scheme going on.
Yeah Hindenburg mocked him over it. Saying he would make him postmaster so he can lick stamps with his face on them. Essentially Hitler licensed his face so every stamp with him on it that was used would give him proceeds
He also had a grift going where the German state bought copies of Mein Kampf for all newlyweds. Not only did it provide couples with some light romantic reading on their honeymoon, it also earned Hitler a shitload of royalties. When he did the one good thing he ever did, he was the richest man in Germany.
Hitler also constantly promoted infrastructure vaporware and everything that did get built was totally dysfunctional. Starting to think he was actually a time traveling Elon Musk
That genocide wasn't really "industrialized", really only industrial element to it were trains they used to transport huge numbers of people.
Everything else would be possible for example during Roman times too.
Just that nobody else before did genocide in such systematic and planned way for such a long time and scale. So you could argue this is what they have in mind using that term, but some historical atrocities like for example massacre after battle of Changping in 260 BCE were planned equally meticulously without any industry, even if being single events without the huge scale of holocaust.