I still hold the personal conspiracy theory that Bill Gates’ foundation urged Oxford to sell the rights to their vaccine to AstraZeneca (instead of making it public) so that countries in Africa (etc.) would lose population under COVID.
We’ll probably never get like a leaked thing that confirms his true reasoning for doing it but I think it’s a good educated guess because:
- He loves to talk about overpopulation
- I’m 99% sure offhand that he’s complained about Africans having too many babies to end poverty there. Not bothering to look it up but I think I remember that.
- The ruling class clearly has not given a shit about actually ending COVID, or meaningfully helping exploited countries (or even imperial ones), because on some level for whatever multiple reasons they think it’s a good thing. Bill Gates, I assume, is cumming every day about the eugenic implications of letting COVID go wild
I almost pulled it entirely out of my ass, but damn does it sound true in my head
The guy was buddy buddy with Jeffrey "I'd love to spread my genius seed everywhere" Epstein. There's no fucking way you don't entertain that demon if you don't have an interest in eugenics. And if it isn't that, is William Gates a nonce?
Gates runs pseudo eugenics programs in certain African countries so yeah it tracks. Though in South Africa it's mainly USAID people being useless and trying to circumcise everyone to "stop the spread of HIV". And maybe hand out some condoms as well. I wish I was joking.
South Africa doesn't use the AstraZeneca vaccine though
The AstraZeneca vaccine was originally developed by Oxford and was going to be public info so countries could make their own (I’m simplifying it going off of memory).
The Gates Foundation urged them to sell the rights to it to AstraZeneca instead, thus killing the plan to make it public. South Africa may not use it now, but that could quite literally be ol’ Bill’s fault since he had it privatized
That's all true, but the reason South Africa didn't use AstraZeneca at the time was because it was ineffective against the beta variant circling back then. So we had to send the AstraZeneca vaccine that we bought back to the manufacturer. It was a national embarrassment that was used by chuds to fuel anti vaccine sentiment at a critical time.
But yes, Bill Gates did do that and his excuse was that African countries couldn't manufacture it safely. Even though there were facilities in place that could.
Ah, I remember some controversy over a minuscule blood clot risk and it getting paused in some Euro countries or something like that too.
I remember it being somewhat less effective (not sure how much offhand), but if it had been publicly available to begin with that still would have been much more than anything else the West has done to help globally.
Also yeah I saw that “poorer countries can’t be trusted to make their own vaccine” bullshit argument from libs so much awhile back. Shit was infuriating.
It's infuriating because South Africa, and other African countries, are opening MRNA vaccine manufacturing plants right now. More complex manufacturing than the AstraZeneca vaccine. Probably to only export the vaccines under some messed up deal.
But noo we're too broke to do it when it's for free, but when they can get something out of it suddenly we have the facilities.
Welcome to South Africa everybody!
The amount of people I hear complaining that the poors™ are having too many children, in very racist ways, is unbelievable.
These takes are so fucking insane, especially considering most of these countries with high birth rates don't even have a particularly large carbon footprint.
There's been a big hoopla recently over China loaning money to African countries to build out the infrastructure. Libs are mad as fuck because African countries can see something tangible being done, and so they prefer dealing with China over the West. Libs will also smugly remind you that the USA offers way more in the way of humanitarian aid, which includes shit like contraceptives and other forms of birth control. The fucking insanity of this is that there's still no meaningful development of these countries via the the aid that the West proffers up. There's no real concerted effort to attack the root causes of why poor people tend to have higher birth rates. Instead we have corrupt ass NGOs and the likes of Bill Gates using Africa as their playground to pull the wool over everyone else's eyes.
This isn't to say that humanitarian aid isn't bad, but there's no reason why it shouldn't be accompanied by real investment into building out the continent's infrastructure and supply chains. It's easier to quantify what China is doing in Africa because it's actually pragmatic. There's currently a project in the works to build out a rail system that would connect most of Subsaharan Africa. All that money the west is supposedly giving out of the goodness of their hearts, and it's only now that sensible shit is being done.
I mean in some ways it's very different, but this is not one of them. Most white people are still very racist.
Pretty much yeah. Self segregation by upper class whites is very much a thing.
Also Orania, a big stain on the country. Seriously search it up if you want to read about chud brainworms.
South africa is one of those places that I pretend doesnt exist in order to not take direct psychic damage
I take direct physic damage every day then I guess.
On the plus side we have a great constitution, legalised LGBT rights with constitutional protections in 2006, socialist/revolunary past.
On the downside is exteme abject poverty, government corruption, constant political scheming, neoliberal reforms have undone a lot of the work by the early ANC and Mandela, HIV/AIDS capital of the world, extreme racism, inequalities of the past not being corrected anywhere near quick enough, women's safety is very bad, average social attitudes don't line up with progressive constitution, and yeah, easily the worst thing, the past of apartheid and the way it effects the present...
I dont even know the full brunt of yankee racist history my brain is too smooth to remember a whole different country's
Don't worry it's basically Yankee racist history, except the British win the war of independence, but the group that lost the war gain power after WW2 through "elections" where only white people can vote. Become an independent Republic, make the racist slave state 100 times more racist. Then go to war with Mexico and northern South America for over 25 years to stop communism. And lose. And segregation only ends in 1994. MLK Jr was sent to prison for a long time for "terrorism" that never actually happened and becomes president, but is hamstrung by capitalist powers and has to compromise endlessly.
From there on its much more different though.
(Obviously this is a massive simplification and the analogy is not quite there, but still).
The capitalist class doesn't even put forth this type of messaging to curb the population (that would lead to less competition on the labor market); the main purpose of this is to place the blame squarely on the poor for all of their misfortunes caused systemically.
This is the rhetoric that allows the "middle class" to shrug their shoulders at people experiencing poverty rather than aspiring to improve their conditions.
Sadly this is the attitude of the "middle class" and rich in most "developing" countries.
Fertility rate can be reduced with proper family planning and improvement in living standards but nope we can't have nice things.
So, the image was posted to WTF but the commenters were like "Why wtf? that's good advice. the poors should be sterilized"
Poster probably frightened by how your average redditor is so enthralled by racism and eugenics.
