this goes to you Leninists too

  • ghostofvirgil [any,he/him]
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    first she did the even more unsuccessful spartakus revolt not Bavaria

    second the reason Lenin's revolt worked was that the people of Russia were (mostly) ready and German people were not ready. the reason Mao, Fidel, Ho Chi Minh, Sankara, etc worked cause the people were mad at there government or occupied by a foreign power (with some Exception)

    also Mao's china fell to Dengists and Stalin...

    Stalin's USSR was undeniably a clusterfuck which caused 4-8 million deaths (not 30 million as neocon fucks say) which then became a revisionist social authoritarian (basically social democracy with out the democracy) state

    also i dont know much about early nk but north korea now is kinda like communist Romania, bad but with some good things

    i was arguing the adoption of Leninism and social democracy by the left is why the left failed and lost the cold war

    then again this was just a small little meme

    now time to get my down votes for criticizing Leninist dogma

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    • PhaseFour [he/him]
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      It's not "criticizing Leninist dogma", it's a complete misunderstanding of the revolutionary process.

      The German communists did not establish a Workers' State. Therefore, the German communists did not provide us an example to learn from in the next stage of revolutionary struggle. Lenin & the Russian communists provided us an example to study on that next stage.

      Every single one of these people were dedicated revolutionaries who made mistakes and had successes. Lenin's successes provided us insight to the next stage of historical materialism: the establishment of a Workers' State and its struggle against capitalism. Rosa's successes did not provide us this, and therefore it is significantly less useful revolutionary theory.

      I feel like a lot of people treat revolution like celebrity worship, then project that onto Marxist-Leninists.

      Stalin’s USSR was undeniably a clusterfuck which caused 4-8 million deaths

      Significantly more than 4-8 million people. The Soviet people were almost wiped off the planet by the Nazis. But the People, with the leadership of Stalin, delivered the workers of the world their first victory over Fascism. And in doing so, they provided us our most important lesson in the construction of socialism & defending it from Fascism.