Are we owned for insisting that the US intel about Putin's imminent attack was fake?
Well if Uncle Sam tries to call me up from inactive reserve to go fight alongside Ukrainian Nazis, I'm going to Canada.
lol we imported Uki chauvinists by the truckload up here after the war.
I'd expect the average Ukrainian-Canadian to be way more reactionary than the average Ukrainian.
Lenin forgive me, I have been owned by the libs
Edit: is Putin doing a bit to own communists who said he wouldn’t do this
i dont think the position of leftists has been diluted in any meaningful way. perhaps aesthestically to people who use politics as aesthetics, but the leftist position was still the right one to take. there is no place for nato or us imperialism here.
very very sad to see, and i am sad that the seemingly obvious material answer to this has been incorrect this time, but i still believe the analysis was correct.
"I'm not owned! I'm not owned!" I cry as the siege of Kiev goes on for another week. Tomorrow I will meet my fate at the hands of a 152mm shell, but until then I am adamant that Putin will not invade and this is just Biden posturing to distract from covid.
nah i think ukraine bombing civilian targets in donbass was the straw that broke the camel's back
Yeah but it's not going to stop me in the future calling bullshit on any of the other war mongering. This particular situation is especially ridiculous but this world a really ridiculous place :shrug-outta-hecks:
I mean there were videos of massive military buildup. Disregarding US Intel, Russia was preparing for any course of action
I hate that I'm meeting draft requirements right now. If this comes to war I'll just loose a couple toes at work, I'm not dying for this bullshit
Get some really bad "long COVID 19" diagnosis that makes you faint every time you exercise or stand up.
Turns out that months of brinksmanship only works if you're willing to commit an army to back it up.
That said, I don't see the EU agreeing to be NATO's battleground over this, and I don't see how the US could intervene and fight a war with Russia without heavy, heavy use of conscription. The western front alone would be 5,000 kilometers long.
Here's a livestream, although of course it's 90% speculation and pictures of fires in various cities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=jNZM_H6q1rY
Things would go nuclear long before we're talking about conscripting US citizens
Its On ! "Special Military Operation to Denazify Ukraine and Protect its People"
https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1496678919730307075
(Fuck i was wrong about Invasion not happening)
This is just terrible. What has NATO done yet again? Warmongering war crime Nazi alliance NATO. Want everything for themselves.
Also no way Putin is going to denazify anything
Wagner nazis just got owned so badly by jihadists in Mozambique that they had to leave and the South African National Defence Forces had to be deployed to stabilize the situation.
Wagner was literally worse than a bunch of pensioner apartheid military PMCs that were deployed before the actual South African army as well.
Wagner also committed war crimes as well.
I don't understand how they can be so bad
Russian private military company. I know them for their deployments in Africa. There's photos of soliders in their ranks with swastika and pagan tatoos and doing Nazi salutes. They're also pretty involved in Ukraine and Syria.
It’s just an excuse to go in.
Think of it as the US saying they were going into Libya to “preserve democracy”
If they are legit going to kiev to catch nazis, this is outscoping nato evilness. fucks sake, I won’t catch sleep this week together with whole ukraine
Yeah the speech gets worse and worse from Putin based on translations I've seen. Something about "greater consequences ever seen in history?" Is that a nuclear threat?
I’m rewatching rn, but it seems like it was threat against intervening by direct means by nato, and more like we are prepared to anything
Is it only in Donbass of a full scale "special operation"?
NBC reported explosions in Kyiv apparently :/
Edit: yeah they’re attacking Kyiv. They might not push ground forces all the way there and might be taking out strategic targets, but still. Bad times ahead.
I’m honestly shocked and feel hubristic for not thinking that Putin would do this.
Putin is legitimately not good, makes Assad look great by comparison.
But there's weird Putin praise in a ton of leftist circles because he takes anti imperialist stances out of necessity.
There’s also shit like “wel the Russian nazi forces aren’t as important because they are bad at fighting” which is one weird fucking cope . As is ignoring all the weird ass shit Putin said about Ukrainians not being real.
Both sides have nazis, Russia seems to have them more actively being used (the far right alliance has what 5% support this week during polling in Ukraine?)
Both have nazis
Both are fucking gross
War is gross
I really was hoping it wouldn’t come to this
FUCK
I mean the Russian PMC Nazis are terrible at fighting, but they also committed regular warcrimes in Mozambique. They're definitely are important in a bad way. It's the Nazis in the actual Russian military that are the most concerning. But yeah, WW3 is just going to be some massive Nazi infighting I guess. Horrifying
You are correct. And it tracks The SS, the most Nazi of all Nazis, were also shit at fighting.
I was specifically brining them up because whenever people rightfully brought them up during the whole “Ukraine is nazi” circle jerk the common rebuttal was “well they suck so doesn’t count” which was WEEIIIRD.
But like you said the war crimes and the actual nazis are the big issue. I’m not going tod efend Ukraine being lax with far right groups but they DO only have like 5% of support and less in the government. It’s not like it was the Nazi shit on the verge of couping the govenrment people made it out to be.
I’m not going to try to defend Ukraine or Russia. Both sucks. War sucks. But the weird circle jerk was real and strange.
No one is gonna win this shit.
Yeah this is the worst situation possible for everyone
It really is. I’m going to go try to find some orgs that are doing refuge shit and maybe LGBT support shit.
I can’t make sense of it, cause it says we are protecting donbass, but the goal is denazification of ukraine, which might imply whole ukraine? :meow-tableflip:
Got to nuclear part, it just says we have them don’t attack us
Whole Ukraine would just be the biggest disaster for everybody
:meow-tableflip: :meow-tableflip: :meow-tableflip:
I wonder what they imagine, taking kiev, catching nazis and “nazis” and then retreating? This is just insane, what the fuck
Border wars always have the most fucked up logic like this. It makes no sense.
LMAO qanon tier copium cognitive dissonance is a bitch, hold that L
LMAO qanon tier copium cognitive dissonance is a bitch, hold that L
:meow-tableflip: stupid fucking conservatives, jesus christ :meow-tableflip: might, nation blah blah
Indeed. Looks like the madman is actually doing it for ???reasons???
BREAKING: PUTIN -- "I must appeal to the military of Ukraine, you swore an oath to the people, not the junta, I urge you to immediately lay down your arms and go home"
BREAKING: Putin -- "Clash between Russia and Ukrainian neo-Nazis is inevitable"
https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1496678506230652928
is there a link to a video of the statement? i dont wanna watch news clips out of context
