The ACP condemns the attack by the forces of the Russian Federation on Ukraine. The world stands shocked at this reckless act on the part of the Putin government and the loss of life and suffering among the peoples exposed to the conflict. This is not a battle between the progressive forces present in the region versus reactionary ones. Both sides represent the anti-people interests of rival imperialist powers determined to control resources and gain geo-political advantage.

Ukraine is a sovereign country that can choose to trade and ally itself with whomever it chooses. In this case, the servants of capital in parliament have chosen to side with the most aggressive and powerful imperialist bloc. Of course, the Russian Federation has legitimate fears that this will lead to the hosting of rival military forces and nuclear weapons on its border in preparation for a war for influence and resources. However, the decision to launch a “pre-emptive war” to head off this eventuality is hostile to the interests of the peoples living on the territory of Ukraine and beyond. It is ordinary workers and other exploited people who will suffer and the action cannot be justified.

The government of Ukraine is not a progressive or peace-loving one. It has stripped workers of their rights, including the right to form a Communist Party. It honours Nazi collaborators and besmirches the memory of the millions who died fighting fascism and defending socialism. But Putin’s government, the successor of the clearly traitorous Yeltsin one, is not a progressive force, either. Putin has cemented the power of the oligarchs (local monopoly capitalists) and continued the theft of the peoples’ collective property. It has pursued the most outrageous reactionary social agenda and cozied up to the most reactionary forces of the Orthodox Church.

It has been claimed by the pro-US media that Putin is nostalgic for the days of the Soviet Union and is seeking to reconstruct the USSR. This is a ridiculous claim. He was an opportunist who served without principle as a KGB officer and subsequently changed allegiances to the capitalist ruling class with consummate ease and great energy. There is nothing popular about the “peoples’ republics” established with Putin’s support in the majority Russian speaking regions of Ukraine.

The people of the world are right to condemn this resort to military aggression, but the US government and its servants in capitalist countries around the world have no right to self righteous condemnation. The examples are many but it’s enough to recall the invasion of Iraq in 2003. The government of Saddam Hussein was not to the liking of those powers but it was by their own definitions the recognised government of a sovereign country. The bogus excuse for the invasion that cost over a million lives was the alleged existence of “weapons of mass destruction” in Iraq. No such weapons existed but the destruction and resource stripping continued. For the US and puppets like the Australian government to talk about the rights of sovereign countries is sick and dishonest. People must not be fooled by this cynical manipulation.

Workers the world over must work to stop “their” governments fomenting and waging war on their working class brothers and sisters. They must recognise their class interests, including that of a future of peace and mutually beneficial relations and not be drawn into the war hysteria being generated. Australian workers must struggle for the country to be removed from the US alliance as part of their struggle for a socialist society.

  • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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    Look around. How many are Taking the Russian claims of mass nazi influence in Ukraine (far right has 3% support right now the openly Nazi parts of the Russian military have more open support) How many are saying Putin’s obviously bogus claims are legit. Putin is a product and protege of fucking Yeltsin but people are taking him at face value simply because “US bad”

    As for your claims about getting the whole picture I agree. But to do so you have to take into account ALL parts of it. Not just the Ukraine bad part. And this site has been really weird about acknowledging those. Especially the purgers of the socialists in donbass. Which is WEIRD

    Also if that was your intention your post did not make it come out that way. It sounded exactly like the same shit I see on Twitter right now if people siding with Russia.

    There was was no reason for them to include the extra details about Donbass in their statement just like there was no reason to include a detailed list of the Nazis both sides have.

    As it says that is not the proper move right now

    • pppp1000 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Where can I get the source on the 3% support for Nazis? And mind telling me why Maidan shouldn't be mentioned at all?

      • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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        Let me find it. It’s in an article about the Nazi batallian. And When did I ever say maidan should not be mentioned. I said if it is you also need to mention Russian nationalists killing the socialists in the donbass break aways if you want the full picture Edit: Wikipedia has the data graphed out and the sources beneath Also note the very few seats they have and their overall support has never been high.

        • pppp1000 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          That's polling for political parties. Whoever is in power, they have continued to arm and support the various Nazi militias. I absolutely agree that Putin and Russia have their own Nazi problems but to downplay the same in Ukraine just because Putin said so is wrong.

          https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY

          • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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            again I’m fucking not. I’m saying that this sub acting like the Nazis control Ukraine (they don’t) is wrong. I’m also saying that If your entire reasoning for siding with Russia or saying that Botha idea is shit is because Nazis in Ukraine then that argument also goes to Russia

            Everyone is shit in this there are no winners.

            • pppp1000 [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Nazis are allowed to openly celebrate and fight alongside the Ukrainian army. It isn't a bogus claim to say Ukraine literally tolerates Nazis like you said "How many are saying Putin’s obviously bogus claims are legit"

              • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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                3 years ago

                Dude. Look up the Wagner group. The Russian army also does and had them in Donbass years ago to help destabilize

                I’m not apologizing for the Ukrainian Nazi cooperation. It’s unforgivable. But if you think the Russians are using Nazis to denazify. Then your just flat wrong.

                • pppp1000 [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  I am not accepting his reason to invade and I agree with the Russian military having their own Nazi problem. I am only pointing out that the Nazi influence in Ukraine isn't made up by Putin and it certainly isn't a small influence.

                  • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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                    Then we are in agreement. However it’s smaller then people on here were acting. They aren’t run by Nazis, Nazis weren’t threatening to coup the government.

                    Again both are shit. People trying to make claims one is more shit then the other doesn’t matter anymore. There is no good to come from supporting the invasion. Lenin said it best when writing about revolutionary defeatism there is no victor for socialism in a capitalist war just chances in the aftermath

        • machiabelly [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          I saw that the ukrainian head of state tolerated nazi flags in the millitary. Like, explicit institutional support matters a lot. I was in agreenment with the aussies' statement though, just pointing that out because i think its important

          • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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            3 years ago

            Russia has Nazi iconography in its military as well. And the Wagner group is middles after the SS in Russia.

            Also important to know. My whole point still remains that there is no better side in this horse shit. People thinking Putin is Gonna de nazify the country have talked for as much propaganda a as they claim others have.

            The ACP the right outlook