star wars space battle is so entirely devoid of consisentcy and logic you really just have to take it at its face and not think about it. star wars ships are literally like napoleonic sailing ships transposed to space with 'lightspeed' being the maguffin that lets the plot traverse wide distances
in this case they were doing like a master & commander ship pursuit shtick
doing like a master & commander ship pursuit shtick
But doing it poorly.
Man a Star Wars movie or episode of a show that actually rips off Master and Commander well would be so cool. Imagine seeing the gritty daily life onboard a Republic cruiser, with 1970s computers filling up entire rooms, droids beeping at each other and naval officers doing complicated star chart navigation, and engineers doing maintenance in tight industrial corridors. There's a subplot about a reactor leak that takes a few lives midway through the story, there's tension between the officers and the crew who are clearly from different socioeconomic backgrounds, and it all ends with a climactic engagement against a Star Destroyer. Throw in a POV character who has a bit of a spiritualistic point of view (maybe a force using culture that isn't the Jedi) and you've got a perfect Star Wars story.
as a reformed star wars nerd who grew up before the prequels and read a ridiculous amount of the sw universe books, the prospect of a star wars show/movie that doesn't include ANY of the canon characters and just gets into some interesting corner of the universe is the only thing that keeps me checking in on star wars at all. I'd love some gritty noir detective thing, and if disney has to do callbacks let news or chatter around the characters refer to big events in the canon.
Mandalorian felt like such a breath of fresh air for this reason. Plenty of callbacks to the movies but they were all incidental to the main characters and plots. Then they started putting shit in from The Clone Wars, and it started getting worse.
The difference between Star Trek and Star Wars is that Star Trek shouldn't kill the Gorn, while Star Wars should have the main character learn a dark truth about themselves and overcome it to become powerful enough to kill the Gorn.
So what you want is like, Battlestar Galactica if they maintained the old 70's sets and charms lol
Or at least until the new show shat the bed with the plot
Also that just plays into my favourite pet theory on Star Wars, which is that it gets more interesting the fewer Jedi are actually involved with the plot
My theory on great Star Wars media is this: take a "Genre" plot, add a sci-fi coat of paint, and give it just a little bit of mysticism. The OT is a hero's journey with some cool force bits. The Mandalorian is a western with the cool Mandalorian culture/religion. The good episodes of Star Wars Visions are just Shounen Anime and/or Samurai movies with the force, and the same could be said of the good plotlines from The Clone Wars.
The prequels and sequels all fall apart because despite the billions of dollars dumped into their special effects, bad writing is bad writing. Seriously every single one of those movies feels like a first draft, I have no idea how they kept making this mistake over and over again after Episode I George Lucas should have had his typewriter taken away from him and Disney should have found somebody to write the sequels that wasn't involved with Batman v Superman.
it gets more interesting the fewer Jedi are actually involved with the plot
fuck yes. thats what made star wars galaxies so fun to play before they made it too easy to be a jedi. its much better when a force user showing up somewhere borders on coming across an eldritch horror or some shit
it gets more interesting the fewer Jedi are actually involved with the plot
One of my favorite pieces of star wars anything is the one where a zombie outbreak happens aboard an imperial prison ship. It was gripping, violent and there wasn't a single jedi around to nerd it up. Also zombie wookies
Yeah it doesn’t have to be consistent or logical. It just has to be fun to watch, which it mostly wasn’t.
The suicide bombing part was fucking tight though. I loved that. They should have let admiral ackbar do that though and not the random general they introduced.
star wars space battle is so entirely devoid of consisentcy and logic you really just have to take it at its face and not think about it. star wars ships are literally like napoleonic sailing ships transposed to space with 'lightspeed' being the maguffin that lets the plot traverse wide distances
in this case they were doing like a master & commander ship pursuit shtick
But doing it poorly.
Man a Star Wars movie or episode of a show that actually rips off Master and Commander well would be so cool. Imagine seeing the gritty daily life onboard a Republic cruiser, with 1970s computers filling up entire rooms, droids beeping at each other and naval officers doing complicated star chart navigation, and engineers doing maintenance in tight industrial corridors. There's a subplot about a reactor leak that takes a few lives midway through the story, there's tension between the officers and the crew who are clearly from different socioeconomic backgrounds, and it all ends with a climactic engagement against a Star Destroyer. Throw in a POV character who has a bit of a spiritualistic point of view (maybe a force using culture that isn't the Jedi) and you've got a perfect Star Wars story.
as a reformed star wars nerd who grew up before the prequels and read a ridiculous amount of the sw universe books, the prospect of a star wars show/movie that doesn't include ANY of the canon characters and just gets into some interesting corner of the universe is the only thing that keeps me checking in on star wars at all. I'd love some gritty noir detective thing, and if disney has to do callbacks let news or chatter around the characters refer to big events in the canon.
Mandalorian felt like such a breath of fresh air for this reason. Plenty of callbacks to the movies but they were all incidental to the main characters and plots. Then they started putting shit in from The Clone Wars, and it started getting worse.
I'm on the same page with you, mandalorian was fun that slowly decreased the more it got dragged back into the main "story" of star wars
mandalorian was fun shit, I’ve heard the new boba fett is also not bad
you just outlined a Star Trek episode, lol. be cool tho
they turned star trek into star wars, so they might as well turn star wars into star trek, it’s only fair
The difference between Star Trek and Star Wars is that Star Trek shouldn't kill the Gorn, while Star Wars should have the main character learn a dark truth about themselves and overcome it to become powerful enough to kill the Gorn.
imagine a zach "not a single theme in alan moore's watchmen penetrated my thick skull" snyder star wars movie
[ancient lamentation music]
pump have you ever watched a star wars movie everything is literally covered in grit and it is gritty pump
Actually, when I said gritty I meant
So what you want is like, Battlestar Galactica if they maintained the old 70's sets and charms lol
Or at least until the new show shat the bed with the plot
Also that just plays into my favourite pet theory on Star Wars, which is that it gets more interesting the fewer Jedi are actually involved with the plot
Basically yeah.
My theory on great Star Wars media is this: take a "Genre" plot, add a sci-fi coat of paint, and give it just a little bit of mysticism. The OT is a hero's journey with some cool force bits. The Mandalorian is a western with the cool Mandalorian culture/religion. The good episodes of Star Wars Visions are just Shounen Anime and/or Samurai movies with the force, and the same could be said of the good plotlines from The Clone Wars.
The prequels and sequels all fall apart because despite the billions of dollars dumped into their special effects, bad writing is bad writing. Seriously every single one of those movies feels like a first draft, I have no idea how they kept making this mistake over and over again after Episode I George Lucas should have had his typewriter taken away from him and Disney should have found somebody to write the sequels that wasn't involved with Batman v Superman.
fuck yes. thats what made star wars galaxies so fun to play before they made it too easy to be a jedi. its much better when a force user showing up somewhere borders on coming across an eldritch horror or some shit
One of my favorite pieces of star wars anything is the one where a zombie outbreak happens aboard an imperial prison ship. It was gripping, violent and there wasn't a single jedi around to nerd it up. Also zombie wookies
Where can I find this? Sounds interesting.
Yeah it doesn’t have to be consistent or logical. It just has to be fun to watch, which it mostly wasn’t.
The suicide bombing part was fucking tight though. I loved that. They should have let admiral ackbar do that though and not the random general they introduced.