Wikipedia is definitely credible trust me bro they’re listening to unbiased UKRAINIAN propaganda instead of conniving Russian propaganda

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/search?q=il-76&src=typed_query

    You seem to be right so far. There's one photo of a crashed Il-76 but it's from 2014. Another video of a crashed aircraft is featured but it's an AN-26 from Ukraine. The US was willing to go on the record saying two Il-76s were shot down but that's about as close as I've found to confirmation.

    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      did the state dept mention where those IL-76s went down? maybe somewhere near iraq's WMD storage facilities? :bean-think:

      • happybadger [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        See that's the thing. If it were a vague report I'd discount it entirely but they seemed to have a pretty precise understanding of where they went down: Bila Tserkva, 50mi south of Kyiv / Vasylkiv, 25mi south of Kyiv

        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMfu4JEXsAIfYUx?format=jpg&name=900x900

        Searching those locations doesn't give any photos either, but Vasylkiv does seem to have an active air war over it: https://twitter.com/i/status/1497523635703238656

        • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I wonder if they really did get them then, but it sure seems like there would be at least some photos of massive wreckage from at least one of them

          • happybadger [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            The liveuamap.com map doesn't seem to indicate whether that area is held by Russia or not. There's an airbase nearby so it would be a priority target at least. I did find video of an Su-25 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1497659200666845186) and Mi-24 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1497650174935642116) getting bonked north of Crimea though. Wouldn't want to be in those fuckers.

      • happybadger [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Just observers I think. There was a flight radar tracking one of the Global Hawk drones watching Russia's fleet in the Black Sea. Presumably they've got the same setup over Ukraine, if not by drone then at least geostationary satellites.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          They were up simultaneously over the Black Sea, Romania and Poland. The RAF also had a C135 up over Hungary but I don't know where that is now.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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      3 years ago

      Also on record saying Sadam had WMDs so their word is worth less than the air they waste uttering it