https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1500499205663645700

  • FidelCastro [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Hmm, on one hand:

    1-the US has a long history of biowarfare and also claiming the victims of their imperialism are doing the shit the US is actually doing.

    On the other hand:

    2-Russia is self motivated and very happy to make shit up if it benefits them, the same as any nation state.

    What makes me lean towards thinking there was something going on here is the state department trying to mass delete records from their websites. That shit is extremely suspicious.

    If the US was funding/producing bioweapons on the Russian border in addition to funding and training the multiple neonazi militias and politicians in Ukraine, then we’re starting to get a clearer picture of why Russia is responding so aggressively.

    Add in the threat of full NATO encirclement, Ukraine actively advocating for nuclear weapons, 8 years of broken peace treaties, and 14,000 civilian deaths in the Donbas People’s Republics. You wind up with a pretty clear scenario where the Russian state would be ridiculous to not counter this if it valued its own continued existence (which every State does).

    To be clear, I am not defending Putin or the Russian military. I am simply laying out the pieces for why this conflict has occurred.

    • derpolitischekampf [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I mean the thing that really makes me think this isn't real is why would the US fund a bioweapons lab in Eastern Ukraine when must have known that Russian invasion was likely and that a bioweapons lab could easily be captured by the Russians? Like, wouldn't it make a lot more sense to position something like that in western Ukraine, or to even just smuggle bioweapons into the country if that's their goal?

      • FidelCastro [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        The Ukrainian government has already shown it has a willingness to lie to the US about the situation on the ground and what it is intending to do. It’s possible the US funded these labs for “defense” against russian bioweapons and then wound up with a :shocked-pikachu: moment.

        The other aspect is that regardless of whether the US snuck bioweapons in, they still need someplace to store the weapons and keep them secure. These locations would need to be labs with some degree of military presence. You don’t want things like anthrax or even (hopefully not) smallpox just floating around, they have to be locked down and managed until you decide to deploy them.

        • derpolitischekampf [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Sure, but why place a bioweapons lab in Eastern Ukraine where its at higher risk for capture by the Russians. And even if it was there, it's been ten days since the invasion started, surely the US government would have evacuated the lab and incinerated any evidence by now.

    • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      8 years of broken peace treaties

      plus 30 years of broken promises, since they promised Gorabachev they wouldn't expand "one inch eastward" of Germany, which was declassified in 2017.

      What makes me lean towards thinking there was something going on here is the state department trying to mass delete records from their websites. That shit is extremely suspicious.

      that's interesting. where'd you find that out? I wanna show more people.

      You wind up with a pretty clear scenario where the Russian state would be ridiculous to not counter this if it valued its own continued existence (which every State does).

      yeah vijay prashad goes into how the entire deal with NATO is to diplomatically soft-coup countries into subordinating their local militaries to US command structure.