I've seen a lot of neoliberals claiming to be liberals outing themselves lately but I also think there's another marketing aspect I haven't seen talked about much: I think the Russian oligarch angle is being pushed so much as a kind of way for more class conscuous leftists to still be pro imperialism and do things in America's interests.

You see it with classic talking points like "This war is about hurting these people not the working class" but also the post on the front page of reddit with people who seized a mansion of an oligarch and it just got me thinking "they're doing this to let us 'get it out of our system'" Idk just something I noticed and was curious if it was something or not.

  • mark213686123 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    didn't lenin talk about socialists who in a time of war suddenly hate the foreign bourgeoise. This is just buying into the nationalistic idea that Russians are our enemies

  • Putin [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    neoliberals claiming to be liberals

    :same-picture:

  • S4ck [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    It functions as appeasement, but it isn't intentional I think. The media knows that resistance to Russia is popular and so these stories are spun in a positive light to generate interactions.

    • FemboyStalin [she/her,any]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      That makes more sense. I didn't know if it was intentional or just a happy coincidence for them. Probably the second one.

  • CrimsonSage [any]
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    3 years ago

    Meh, Russia is a hyper capitalist shithole suffed full of oligarchs, and so is Ukraine for that matter. This isn't a "You have to be pro Russia because neutrality is pro America!" Like there are no winners here it is just losers all the way down.

    • FemboyStalin [she/her,any]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      No, I know that part. But I'm seeing it as a "go ahead and hate /these/ oligarchs seize /their/ property etc, get that revolutionary drive out of your system"

      • CrimsonSage [any]
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        3 years ago

        I think that's a bit if a stretch. I think it's more that people just have a baseline russophobia that is easy to play up for their benefit.. Also your hypothesis assumes that the upsurge in revolutionary activity in the imperial core is the result of just like animating spirit or the zeitgeist of the times and not objective material conditions.

  • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    So the pitch is to support Ukraine against Russia because of the oligarchs, and support things like sanctions against Russia, even though sanctions only affect working people. :marx-joker: