We're probably being influenced by a lot of selection bias. Others whose stories we're not seeing could be causing a lot of pain and suffering. We probably shouldn't get too cocky when they could be helping out the murder and torture squads like Azov and C14.
No doubt. However, having that fodder serves its purpose and allows more violence by the state and fascists. I just think it's dangerous to underestimate the damage that's done by having people feeding into the war because we look only at the few videos that are spread around about some of them being ineffective and even killed before they engage. For example, we should continue to dissuade everyone from going and doing this volunteer shit, and thinking they just go and get owned and die or leave tends to make us (leftists) instead just shrug it off and some even possibly encourage it. Like, getting your proto-fascist neighbor to go pick up an AK in Ukraine might not (just) be a recipe for getting him killed; him being there might result in some additional neo-Nazis (whether him or the people he's supporting) murdering people.
It's probably fine to deride the ones who do wind up obviously having zero effect, but generalizing that to the point of implying that the entire phenomenon of people going to support the war is fine and harmless IMO is a bad idea.
God forbid one of these idiots survive to come home and start telling impressionable youth about how manly and hardcore the ukrainian nationalists were and how they should be more like them etc etc
My brain parsed FL as Florida and not Foreign Legion so I'd like to treat everyone to the mental image of the first Floridaman regiment, armed with alligators and a PCP ration
We're probably being influenced by a lot of selection bias. Others whose stories we're not seeing could be causing a lot of pain and suffering. We probably shouldn't get too cocky when they could be helping out the murder and torture squads like Azov and C14.
It seems like the FL folks are literally being used as cannon fodder.
No doubt. However, having that fodder serves its purpose and allows more violence by the state and fascists. I just think it's dangerous to underestimate the damage that's done by having people feeding into the war because we look only at the few videos that are spread around about some of them being ineffective and even killed before they engage. For example, we should continue to dissuade everyone from going and doing this volunteer shit, and thinking they just go and get owned and die or leave tends to make us (leftists) instead just shrug it off and some even possibly encourage it. Like, getting your proto-fascist neighbor to go pick up an AK in Ukraine might not (just) be a recipe for getting him killed; him being there might result in some additional neo-Nazis (whether him or the people he's supporting) murdering people.
It's probably fine to deride the ones who do wind up obviously having zero effect, but generalizing that to the point of implying that the entire phenomenon of people going to support the war is fine and harmless IMO is a bad idea.
God forbid one of these idiots survive to come home and start telling impressionable youth about how manly and hardcore the ukrainian nationalists were and how they should be more like them etc etc
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My brain parsed FL as Florida and not Foreign Legion so I'd like to treat everyone to the mental image of the first Floridaman regiment, armed with alligators and a PCP ration
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