• MendingBenjamin [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    January 6th was an attempted coup and libs frothing at the mouth over that shouldn’t make us downplay the attempt

    • BrezhnevsEyebrows [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      That shit would have been unthinkable in the US 10 years ago, maybe even 5 years ago. Conditions in this country are changing quickly

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I hear ya. Just because the QAnon people with no central organization or discipline and a leader who bailed on them right after inciting them into action were bad at doing a coup doesn't mean that wasn't their explicit goal.

      • MendingBenjamin [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        QAnon is unorganized, but they’re just part of the militant wing. The event was just as much facilitated by more organized figures in the movement as it was by randos on 8chan. It’s pretty apparent that like half of the Fox News anchors were in on it and the Libertarian Billionaire crowd and their think tanks put out ads and funded bussing. They haven’t figured out how to pull it off, but there are elements of capital that want this.

        • RNAi [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Why would capital delegitimaze itself and all its stupid myths by making a coup over such small difference in management. If you are rich why would you care about who's president of the US for fuck sakes

        • ssjmarx [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Eh, I think that if you compare the things you would actually have to do to coup the federal government with the things the more "organized" figures in Fox News and such did it's such a different ballpark I'm not even sure the organized part of Jan 6 were aware of what sport they were playing.

          To coup the federal government, you would need the support of top military officials or the intelligence apparatus (preferably both). The military would have to occupy Washington DC and lock it down while the FBI/CIA make mass arrests. The press would have to be lead through statements about how there is an emergency and the military is "handling it". You would then have to do all of this again in at least half of the fifty states very quickly before the state governors who oppose you get their political machines in gear to do something like activate their national guard.

          By contrast, the Jan 6 people got around 10k unaffiliated people into DC and incited a riot. That's it.

          • Wheaties [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            Someone on chapo said something along the lines of

            They wondered into the building where politics happens and waited for a cutscene to start

            It certainly demonstrates that a competent, charismatic general would have the base of support to pull off a coup. But i don't think we have any figures near power that are competent and charismatic enough.