That's the plan dear climate groups.

    • dudes_eating_beans [any]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah, I've actually been thinking this exact thought lately. That, and seeing how the world has handled this pandemic pretty much guarantees we're never going to reach a world collective and get off this rock or make life on this rock any better.

      Fuck it, real doomer hours. :doomjak:

      • bentwookie [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        it will get worse before it gets better :doomer: but it will get to a point that it's so intolerable we will have nothing to lose and we'll take the risk to make it better. or maybe not us, but some poor comrade schmuck's kids.

        • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Police only got another couple decades before they start looking like this. https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BtG-QTz1prM/T0KruNyG5mI/AAAAAAAAAGU/wQ2Y9pd45xg/s1600/farpoint_hd_273.jpg

              • bentwookie [none/use name]
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                2 years ago

                they kinda did; many cities threw a bone to the struggling ho/motel industry by having them house the homeless. i know portland expanded it's tiny-homes-on-pallets-in-vacant-lots strategy

              • SoyViking [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                That would mean providing a bare minimum of food and shelter for them, thereby rewarding laziness, insulting hard working tax payers and disrespecting personal responsibility.

              • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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                2 years ago

                I mean they did, in a low-key semi coercive way. Like people said, all kinds of official camps and mini house lots and motel voucher programs have crept up, while cities are doing sweeps to force people out of their meagre shelter in to the freezing winter temperatures, presumably in order to kill them in a way that gives the city a fig leaf of plausible deniability.

    • Xenomork [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      If the German revolution succeeded we'd (probably) be living in global socialism by now.

  • mr_world [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    We know Biden and Dems are not tough on oil and were never going to be. But oil thinks they could have. So you raise prices citing inflation. Nobody can stop you because you're the oil industry. People get mad over prices and put pressure on the admin. The admin makes decisions that benefit oil and back off on a climate agenda that was going to be lax anyways. You can read the public consensus as opposing the end of oil.

    Oil will never stop. They're not going to volunteer themselves into being poor. The only way it ends is to make it end with military force and nationalize the industry. Then you can turn off the spigot. There's not a single reform or private-public mechanism that will stop oil. They will fight to their graves for the right to kill us all. Might as well oblige them.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Unironically the FBI violently dismantled environmentalist organizations in the 90s because of this. Not because anyone was going to arm the trees, but because the environmentalists were factually and morally correct and that made them a threat that needed to be neutralized before they got wide spread traction. "environmental terrorists" were the FBI's number one priority for most of the 90s. They used the burning of a couple of car lots in California by unrelated people to spin up a wild conspiracy theory about organized eco-terrorists that were going to do eco terror stuff. They never really explained how vandalizing mink farms was terrorism, and it didn't matter that no one was ever actually harmed by tree spiking, but they still used their made up stories to arrest and intimidate a ton of people, effectively shitcanning a lot of the then existing environmentalist movements in the US.

  • rubpoll [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Well, on the plus side, humankind may still find a way to survive and repopulate after we reach +9C average global temperatures.

    And hey, if anything, being reduced to 10,000 people in a private doomsday bunker just makes it easier for world communism to happen.

    • NotAnOp [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I would guess that a dwelling space for several hundred thousand of our people could very easily be provided.

      A comPuter can decide who stays based on youth, health, ssssexual fertility, intelligence, and a cross-section of necessary skills. Naturally, they would bread prodigiously. There would be much time and little to do, but with the proper breading techniques and a ratio of say...10 females to each male, I would guess we could work our way back to the current Gross Domestic Product within 20 years.

      :strangelove:

    • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Communism requires near post-scarcity levels of economic development and production. It is not possible with 10,000 people in a bunker

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          That's not a real thing read anthropology books written after 1970.

          No seriously though the term is reductive at best and outright misleading at worst. Human history and the history of economics is far too complicated. There was never a static universal social structure and economy. It's been weird and complicated for the entire six million years we've been genetically distinct from chimps.

  • ZZ_SloppyTop [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Yeah climate change and covid are last season. This season it’s war with Russia. Keep up

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    :biden-harbinger: HARM REDUCTION :biden-harbinger:

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Okay so be straight up with me; We're waaaaay past "Unstoppable feedback loops will accelerate climate change without further human intervention" right? It's all just moving deck chairs around on the Titanic at this point?