"There wasn't a major power supplying the Afghans, they just had the will to fight" is the spiciest take especially in relation to Ukraine and his promotion of weapons shipments there

  • BreadpilledChadwife [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    The full quote is, “There wasn’t a major power supply the Afghans with high-tech equipment. They just had the will to fight. And because of that, it kept going and going and going.”

    This is accurate in context. There’s no comparison between the equipment being given to Ukraine by the west and the equipment given to the Mujahideen. You can say he’s talking about the Taliban and that China or Russia supporting the Taliban, but you would be directly citing US intelligence to do so.

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      • effervescent [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        This is accurate, but I do actually believe that Beau was talking about the US occupation. It’s the war that his audience would be most familiar with (largely American and skews younger) and it’s also the time period where the US was decidedly not giving aid to the Taliban or any of their precedents

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        • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          I don't know since the russian occupation parallel seems like a possibility too, anyways no one knew what ISI was doing from 2001 onwards but i'd argue it's definitely possible that some shit was sent to Afghanistan after the actual invasion itself (and the mass murder of pows let's not forget that part)

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        They were definitely hyped up as high-tech weapons in the western press back then. I remember reading articles as a kid how the wholesome mujahedeen fought off soviet gunships thanks to the advanced targeting system. No idea how true that was, given that such articles are practically written by the IMC's PR department and always show everything as the next Wunderwaffe, but it was common knowledge in the West that post-invasion, the USA was arming the jihadists in Afghanistan with SAMs.

    • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Stingers are not high tech since when? they were barely starting production when they gave truckloads to the """"freedom fighters""" of Afghanistan

      • BreadpilledChadwife [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah that’s been pointed out. That’s why I crossed that bit out. I was trying to say that, after the US stopped funding the Mujahideen, their access to modern weaponry would have stopped, which wouldn’t make them comparable to modern “military aid”. But then I realized everyone was just assuming he was talking about the Soviet-Afghan War in the first place, so it wasn’t relevant.