I teach at a public high school for "profoundly gifted" kids, and work pretty much exclusively with 16+ students. They're all very smart, and range from libs to somewhat better than normal libs (we had one open ML, but he graduated a few years ago). They all think Trump is a fucking dumbass. As with every election, a big crop of our seniors is going to be eligible to vote for the first time this year.

For the first time in the decade or so that I've worked here, pretty much every single one of them has said they don't intend to vote. They hate Biden almost as much as Trump, either because they condemn the genocide in Israel or just because they (correctly) believe that he has done nothing to actually benefit them. This is a population of kids who are much more politically engaged than your average teenager, and vote turnout in previous years has been high. I was actually very surprised at how many of them expressed contempt for the whole process this year, and indicated that they were totally uninterested in supporting Biden (and of course would not support Trump). I'm guessing this is part of a big trend that we're going to see this year, and I'm preparing myself for libs blaming young people--for whom Biden has done little but make their future demonstrably worse--for Democrats' loss.

I'm trying to convince all of them to vote anyway, just for some third party that speaks to them. Yesterday, we talked about PSL, Cornel West, the Greens, and Afroman for a bit. It would be incredibly funny to see young people reject Biden/Trump, and yet turn out in record numbers anyway. The narrative that kids are just too addicted to their phones to vote would fall apart. I'll keep working on it.

No real point here, just im-doing-my-part

  • pumpchilienthusiast [comrade/them, any]
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    9 months ago

    young people reject Biden/Trump, and yet turn out in record numbers anyway. The narrative that kids are just too addicted to their phones to vote would fall apart.

    that's exactly when the democrats will start supporting the republican initiative to raise the voting age

    • stigsbandit34z [they/them]
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      9 months ago

      Not unreasonable to believe they’ll limit voting to landowners at some point

      I don’t know history but wasn’t that a thing way back when

      • SSJ2Marx
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        9 months ago

        That was how it was when the country was founded. The founders believed that only people who owned land had a "stake" in the country, whereas I suppose the 90% of people who didn't were just cattle to be herded.

        Oh shit I just realized. "Stakeholder capitalism" is supposed to be about getting the people affected by pollution making decisions about polluting corporations, but they're going to turn it into this.

        • stigsbandit34z [they/them]
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          9 months ago

          I can totally see voting being framed as “privilege” of some kind in the future pain

          Especially as corporations continue to buy up houses

          • cosecantphi [he/him]
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            9 months ago

            We're already there. Felons lose their "right" to vote just like they lose their "right" to not be enslaved. Another way the US criminal justice system obfuscates the fact that this piece of shit country is still the same piece of shit country it was 200 years ago.

        • iridaniotter [she/her]
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          9 months ago

          In many local Australian elections, capitalists are literally given extra votes.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        I don't think they would ever want to ever or restrict "democracy". The pageantry of voting and politicians having dramatic struggles within a ridiculously limited band of accepted reactionary opinion is doing wonders for consent manufacture. It creates an illusion of choice and secures a buy-in to the regime from the people. It also diffuses discontent into harmless electoralism rather than other, more fruitful methods of political action. It even gives them one more thing to add to the list of reasons why the aryan master race of the garden are superior to the savages of the jungle. And it's not like it's actually causing any real harm to the people who matter whether people vote for the blue or the red clown.

      • iridaniotter [she/her]
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        9 months ago

        Only white landowning men could vote, yes. Meanwhile a century before then, only nobles could vote in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Ironically, there were so many nobles that the percent of the population that could vote was about the same lmao

    • Infamousblt [any]
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      9 months ago

      They could just go back to the old way and say you can only vote if you own land. Gen Z would never vote again

      • jabrd [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        That’s kind of how it works de facto even if not de jure. The middle class that can afford home ownership are the ones most active in politics and driving the machinery. That’s why American politics are split between petty bourgeois red team and professional/managerial strata blue team and their cultural neuroses. Shoutout to the 2016 film Catfight with Sandra Oh for capturing that dynamic. Just two terrible people kicking the shit out of each other and making all of our lives worse for it

        • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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          9 months ago

          I've heard that dichotomy before, but I think that's just where the aesthetics of politics end up being split: Between petty bourgeois reactionaries and managerial libs. I think the reality is closer to domestic/industrial capitalists versus financial capitalists, and both of those have representative middle class avatars.

    • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      Pelosi: "We're tired of winning and we honestly just don't feel like doing stuff. Therefore, we will raise the voting age as well to help give republicans a chance...and get me back to brunch!"