Space sucks, there's nothing even up there. There are plenty of places on Earth that haven't been explored yet, finish with this planet before you start looking at other ones, nerds.
Space sucks, there's nothing even up there. There are plenty of places on Earth that haven't been explored yet, finish with this planet before you start looking at other ones, nerds.
I can't tell if this a bit or Hexbear's weird neo-luddite streak rearing its head again
Exploring the depths of the ocean? Documenting novel life in the deepest jungles of the Amazon? Investing in new forms of biological research focused on the microbial world? Industrializing the Green Economy through programs to reforest deserts and geoenginer the next generation's access to renewable energy, potable water, and arable land?
All examples of the worst forms of luditism.
Ok do it all without satellites
ok
Can't wait to bring about a golden age of global scientific cooperation using morse code, mail trucks and enough wires to make the transatlantic cable look like a single thread of hair.
I guess radios just stopped existing once we put Sputnik up.
radio wave do famously travel through cables and not the air.
Alright, facetious sniping aside, you can't have global communications of the kind we have now without either a) a fuckton of radio towers and fiberoptic cables or b) satellites, or both.
Satellites alleviate the need for big radio towers and fiberoptic cables that are otherwise necessary to communicate across oceans or with very remote areas. Do people living in the Solomon Islands deserve access to the internet? Is thousands of miles of oceanic cable or a network of satellites more feasible for getting it to them? What about ocean-going ships whose trips are made infinitely safer by way of satellite GPS and weather-tracking satellites?
For that matter, what about nearly every global attempt to track and study climate change that makes use of data taken from orbit? What about non-commercial scientific experiments like the kind the old Mir station carried out and China's Tiangong station is carrying out right now? The Hubble and Webb telescopes studying deep space objects, enriching our understanding of the universe?
Opposing all that because astronomy or space travel is "hubristic," is reactionary in the extreme. It's rubbing right up on chuds' fixation on an idealized past, never mind writing off the efforts of AES nations to realize the benefits of space exploration.
wow froge with slightly different color! this is much more important than satellite imaging for climate science!
it is actually. Weather you can see the results, and works in patterns. you have one shot at the frog.
froge will be ok without humans examining its slightly different bone structure, froge will not be ok if planet burns down
interesting. I wonder if combusting a billion gallons of fuel to put a human on the moon to walk around and throw up then leave has made any difference in the climate.
I definitely despise space at this point. I actively want humanity to live and die on earth. I will foil any attempts to go offworld. It is not worth the effort, and is likely hubristic.
Little late to the race there friend.
good point
The luddites were based though.
I mean the OG Luddites destroyed technology that was used being used to directly disenfranchise them, I don't see how the James Webb telescope looking at Messier objects is taking away anyone's livelihood.
That's cool and rad.
We are talking about shit like a mars base when we can't even make good bases on earth yet. We can't even make good non-base places on earth either really. Gotta walk before you run.