I've just started getting into Trueanon and was listening to the Bush Did 9/11 series. It's pretty common knowledge (around here anyway) that the ultrawealthy really do fucking run everything and shape the narrative such that they can keep doing so no matter how heinous the atrocities they commit. Absurd wealth really is absolute power. But it makes me wonder... what about the "new money"? As just one example, like Bill Gates. I know he's an evil capitalist motherfucker, but he wasn't among the powerful elite when he started out. Is there some point where people like him get "jumped in" to the violent gang that steers geopolitics? Does he know that Bush (and co.) really did do 9/11? Are even those who have the most wealth, at least ostensibly known to the public, kept in check by the power of those behind the 3 -letter agencies? Maybe this is a stupid question and I realize any answers will inevitably just have to be speculation, but I'm trying to wrap my head around this and would love to hear thoughts.
I don't think these kinds of things are organized to feel nefarious to the people inside them. It's more like these people all know each other from schools or family networks. In Bill Gates' case I think one of his parents helped the fledgling Microsoft get a lucrative contract doing something for IBM, which itself is a huge military contractor. So he does business globally and meets lots of people, and when he wants to do medicine "charity" things he knows someone who knows someone who can help, and make a great return on investment, he doesn't really care how.
And then one day he's approached by a g man after some rich guy party. He wants the foundation to cover for a project in Africa that's vital to national security. Bill is suspicious so he doesn't agree right away. He wants more details at a scheduled meeting next Tuesday, call his secretary. He's leaving to check out the private plane of one of his new friends from the party. A hedge fund guy in a Harvard sweater with two very young Bulgarian women hanging off his arms.
That all seems pretty reasonable for how it might work. But like listening to that Trueanon series on Bush Did 9/11, and how connected everything is, and how many people either knew ahead of time or knew after the fact that this mass murder (not even of foreign brown people, but white US citizens even!) was orchestrated and allowed to happen to further the interests and power of the elite, I can't help but wonder to what degree these people like Gates and Bezos know, if they "approve," or if they even care.
There is literally nothing that indicates that the ultra wealthy view the rest of humanity with anything but all consuming disgust and scorn. Of course they wouldn't care, we're like bugs to them.
Just look at the memos talking about Christian Smalls lol
Right, but I guess the question is... was that how Gates/Bezos always saw the rest of humanity and never would have gotten where they were if they didn't start off that way? Or was it something that developed. Again, does Gates know about how 9/11 was an "inside job" to benefit his cohort? Is he in full knowledge of all this other shit that goes down and ok with it? Turn a blind eye? Because "new money" were people not too dissimilar from us in terms of class at one point.
Who knows? Listening to Behind The Bastards episodes on both of those freaks it's clear that they were always tremendous jerks. Bill's mom had to tell him to shut the fuck up a few times at dinner as a kid just because of how snarky and pedantic he was. Of course, I would say their prejudices stem from the antagonisms of class society in that they were from wealthy families to begin with, and their increasing success just emboldened their already callous attitudes.
We can only ever speculate the degree to which these people collude and how much knowledge they have of their going-ons. Judging from how Bill reacted to being asked about Epsteins death I would say a lot of them do know about some of the sketchier shit. Again, it's all just speculation.
Also new money are absolutely not "not that far removed from us", pretty much all of these people had connections the average person in no way has
I doubt there's a single centralized messageboard that the rich get read into once they cross a certain threshold. They can do their own plotting among their own factions, they probably suspect each other of things and some probably do tell each other shady secret shit but I imagine (1) the kid fucking blackmail operation keeps everyone important quiet to protect themselves (2) they don't usually care enough to interfere in each other's plans, or they can usually resolve disputes by sharing some of the loot