I'm sure a lot of us didn't use it much because it was overwhelming and difficult to follow sometimes, but I know that lots of people loved it, and I'm one of them.

Just feeling reflective and thinking about what lessons can be learned from the whole experience, what we can use going forwards for the betterment of our community, and what we think are things we want to build towards.

I'm so utterly proud of this community, many wonderful things happened on the discord and in the weeks after the sub was banned, so many people came together and worked hard for the betterment of their comrades, we've witnessed a glimpse of the power of our solidarity with one another, and I can't wait to see how far we can go.

I love you all, and you know I mean it <3

  • grym [she/her, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Very insightful info, thank you. I feel extremely stupid that i gave money to the fucking tracr.co thing (had no idea they were fascists but now that I think about it for more than 2 seconds it seems fucking obvious) because I wanted to see what info they had on my accounts and wanted to remove it, I was pissed when the deletion link did nothing. Is there an existing good alternative on Matrix that also does voice calls, screen sharing, etc..?

    • cadence [they/them,she/her]
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      4 years ago

      What did happen when you gave them money?

      Matrix is designed for text chat. It does have the ability to embed widgets in the room which can allow for voice/video meetings, but last time I tried this it was really annoying and didn't work well. So just go on meet.jit.si to create an ephemeral meeting room and post the link to the room in some chatroom on matrix.

      If you want voice chat without then mumble is literally the best software ever for that. It puts discord to shame. The concepts are the same, the UI is just as good, the voice activity detection is incredible, and the sound quality is perfectly fine. Literally the only downside is that it doesn't have text chat (well, it does, but it's so limited that it doesn't count) so you have to use a different desktop app for text chat and voice chat instead of them being combined. I'm fine with that, though.

      Unlike jitsi, mumble servers don't go away when everyone leaves, so you can drop in and out of them any time without needing to share a link.

      • grym [she/her, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Paid via paypal, gave me access to the "full user page" so I could see more connected accounts, server, etc.. I made another account after that since my current discord account had some stuff on it.

        I tried jitsi, it's really neat. Wonder how they host this and make money. I have pretty particular needs (online dnd), I use the voice/video chats of discord a lot and the Go Live feature has sound on top of the screen-sharing (although it doesn't really work half the time). I want a voice chat with good sound quality, video conference for webcams, and a good screenshare either with sound, or the ability to stream sound/music through another voice channel with a good sound quality (like mp3 quality, below that the compression/quality isn't good enough for me).

        On jitsi for example I can do almost all of the above, but the sound quality isn't good enough to stream music and screenshare has no sound (also has no noise-cancellation). That was the advantage of bots on discord. I've thought about mumble/other voice clients, but I also need a good chat. Any fragmentation of software is an exponential chance of technical problems and the annoyance of my tech-clumsy friends.

        I'll keep looking at the best compromise, thanks for the info!

        • cadence [they/them,she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Fragmentation is pretty annoying, but here's a setup idea:

          • Video and screenshare on jitsi
          • Voice on mumble (you can keep the window in the background once you connect)
          • Text chat on matrix (arrange the matrix and jitsi windows in a way that lets you see both, or try using the matrix jitsi widget)
          • Stream music through https://cytu.be or something. It's synchronised youtube playback so it should sound significantly nicer than streaming audio through a voice call. You can send this window to the background.

          But yeah I agree that this is annoying and requires setup and honestly using discord for this is easier. I'd probably try to make this work, but I'm just some tech chick.

          • grym [she/her, comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            Jitsi would fill almost the entire thing, with the exception of better voice/noise cancel, but mumble would be nice too. I don't need the text chat too much. What I currently use for music is that I have a basic icecast/shoutcast server on a VPS, I stream music from my machine to that server (butt client), and I have a simple radio HTML player (using amplitude.js to adapt it for live-streaming) on a webpage that my players listen to. It's great quality (basically same as listening to it myself on my own machine), but comes with some latency. The reason I do this is that, to make even more annoying, I don't stream music or use youtube much. I like to have my own music files, I also often have music that I edited, cut or processed a bit (like a nice cover of a video game track that I downloaded and applied some noise-reduction on, etc..). So yea on top of everything else I have to stream music from local files.

            I'm a tech-person as well, but even just having to load a seperate web page for my HTML radio is something that I need to remind my players of, introduces potential technical issues, and I also need to load up a whole audio config on my machine every time. It's working pretty well so far tho, just wish I could get rid of the latency, or at least guaranty that all players and myself have the same latency and not have one player 2 minutes behind. Pause/Play on the players fixes that problem, but that kinda ruins the mood to have to make sure my players are hearing what i'm hearing.

            • cadence [they/them,she/her]
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              4 years ago

              You should see if you can embed the player in a matrix room as a widget. The instructions here might help you. https://github.com/Johni0702/mumble-web#matrix-widget Use m.custom instead of jitsi. (Note: These instructions do not actually currently work for mumble because the microphone permission box never appears. You might be able to get it to work with your player website.)