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    • gayhobbes [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The hope with Biden losing is that the dems, while still rejecting anything genuinely leftist, will realize that they need to embrace a modicum of social democracy to maintain their incomes.

      If they lose they will never do this.

        • gayhobbes [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I mean by that token Bernie has had significant influence in crafting the Democrat platform so I dunno what to tell you, but I don't think the Dems are going to think they can go LEFT if they lose.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          FDR

          a) Had the Soviet Union and giant unions breathing down his neck. b) Had a democratic party that was capable of ideological reform.

          We have neither of those things, the shocking thing about this moment is that Capitalism has atomised so much that neither the left, centre, or right are strong enough or can organise enough to reform the social order.

          The left is still pretty shattered and the other two have almost exactly the same policy behind the rhetoric and are essentially megacorp spokesfronts for marginally different groupings of Capital. The Imperial core is completely ossified.

          • kristina [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            tbh fdr was fash lite and knew that black people wouldnt get any of his new deal reforms while jailing japanese people

    • Biggay [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      If you think democrats, even the ones at the top, will learn anything ever and stray away from their ideology, I've got a house to sell you.

    • Chapo_Trap_Horse [none/use name]
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      The hope with Biden losing is that the dems, while still rejecting anything genuinely leftist, will realize that they need to embrace a modicum of social democracy to maintain their incomes.

      This is what the left says after they lose in the primaries every single election. It doesn't work.