• Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    the american CIA gave stepan bandera shelter

    the american CIA funded the OUN and other far-right ukrainian nationalist groups thru projects like AERODYNAMIC

    america destroyed the USSR through a capitalist coup, creating the russian federation

    america brought yeltsin to power

    yeltsin privatized and deregulated everything

    NATO wasn't dissolved after the cold war and kept expanding into several new countries, due to american pressure, and despite warnings that this would cause instability (or perhaps BECAUSE OF those warnings, since instability was desired by the US)

    putin came to power with US approval by cooperating with US capitalist oligarchs. bill clinton spoke fondly of him in his earliest days in power

    ukraine has two US-backed color revolutions, one in 2004, and one in 2014

    US backed coup leader officially recognizes nazi collaborator bandera as a national hero

    the US backed coup in 2014 is extremely violent and involves western ukrainian neo nazis burning alive a bunch of donbass separatists hiding in a parliament building, as well as yanukovych being forced to resign

    between 2014 and 2022 US backed fascists from right sector, azov, svoboda, etc. are constantly ethnically cleansing eastern ukraine

    US continues funding and arming neo fascists in ukraine, this time through the NED instead of the CIA, since the NED now does what the CIA used to do

    US tries to whitewash fascism by in Ukraine by pointing to the Jewish liberal president, who might as well have a fascist gun to his head at all times

    The Jewish liberal president says bandera worship is "cool and normal" while practically sweating bullets

    ukraine tries to join NATO, doubling the amount of border russia will share with NATO, and decreasing nuclear strike distance to moscow

    every attempt to deescalate this since 2014 has been foiled by the ukrainian far right

    anyway ignore the fact that this entire unstable situation has been deliberately molded for several decades by US intelligence working with local nazis. we need to see this as merely a confusing inter-imperialist conflict in which both sides are equally evil. we need to view the russian government intervening in a heavily ethnically russian area on its own borders as being just as imperialist as the united states spending several decades fomenting fascist violence all over the planet, including in ukraine. whatever we do, we certainly shouldn't view both ukraine and russia in their current forms as products of postwar meddling by the USA, who alone has the power and the stability to continuously destabilize ex-soviet countries and turn them against each other and amplify their fascist elements. :fidel-sarcastic:

    watch the documentary ukraine on fire

  • Omega_Haxors [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Ukraine has violently pulled me out of the spectacle of performative leftism. No war but class war. See, not hard.

    It's blatantly transparent now how many people are just in it for social clout and don't actually have any values.

      • Omega_Haxors [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Solidarity. When you have people just farming social capital you get a bunch of cracker 'leftists' with CIA funding pushing neoliberal propaganda.

        Put bluntly; due to material conditions, it's a complete waste of time to try and find comrades in the west. Exploited nations have far more potential.

        We can keep breadtube types around because they're weakening fascists, but lets not pretend that they're our friends. Spare them the wall, but that's it.

        • SaniFlush [any, any]
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          2 years ago

          Still hate being alone. Isn’t the whole point of Left ideology that we protect each other?

          • Omega_Haxors [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            By all means protect each other, just don't go out expecting to convert liberals and nazis because all you'll get are neoliberals and cryptonazis.

  • Judge_Juche [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I will have you know that China and Israel are playing both sides so they always come out on top

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The Venn Diagram of anti-Chinese stereotypes and anti-semetic stereotypes is a circle.

  • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Cringe in using shittoss comic, but also yeah pretty much the whole vibe of this horrid conflict

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Need everything to stop so we can all figure this thing out